- start: 37.253
  end: 51.686
  speaker: barron
  en: "One day, in a hovel, in this little nothing town of Nazareth, an angel appeared to a young Israelite girl, perhaps no more than 14 or 15, and they had a rather extraordinary conversation."
  zh: 有一天，在拿撒勒这个微不足道的小镇上的一间简陋的房子里，一位天使向一个年仅十四五岁的以色列少女显现，他们进行了一场非同寻常的对话。
- start: 55.149
  end: 60.994
  speaker: barron
  en: This woman is, after Jesus himself, the most depicted figure in the history of Christian art.
  zh: 在基督教艺术史上，这位女子是继耶稣之后最常被描绘的人物。
- start: 63.806
  end: 69.592
  speaker: barron
  en: This woman has beguiled the imaginations of our most gifted poets, from Dante to T.S. Eliot.
  zh: 这位女子迷住了我们最有才华的诗人们的想象力，从但丁到艾略特。
- start: 76.821
  end: 83.969
  speaker: barron
  en: To this woman, millions come, bearing the burdens of their hearts, for they believe her to be their mother.
  zh: 数百万人带着心中的重担来到这位女子面前，因为他们相信她是他们的母亲。
- start: 92.946
  end: 195.741
  speaker: barron
  en: "The angel said to her, Ave Maria."
  zh: 天使对她说：「万福马利亚。」
- start: 196.241
  end: 199.561
  speaker: barron
  en: Rejoice, O highly favored daughter, the Lord is with you.
  zh: 「蒙大恩的女子，你要欢喜，主与你同在。」
- start: 199.721
  end: 201.682
  speaker: barron
  en: Blessed are you among women.
  zh: 「你在妇女中是有福的。」
- start: 202.742
  end: 209.003
  speaker: barron
  en: As is invariably the case with those to whom angels make their appearance, Mary was afraid.
  zh: 像所有见到天使显现的人一样，马利亚感到害怕。
- start: 211.004
  end: 213.144
  speaker: barron
  en: Don't be afraid, the angel said.
  zh: 天使说：「不要怕。」
- start: 213.364
  end: 217.405
  speaker: barron
  en: You shall conceive and bear a son, and give him the name Jesus.
  zh: 「你要怀孕生子，可以给他起名叫耶稣。」
- start: 218.703
  end: 232.996
  speaker: barron
  en: When she wonders how this will be possible, since she's had no sexual experience, the angel explains, The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you, so that the holy offspring will be called Son of God.
  zh: 当她疑惑这怎么可能，因为她还没有性经验时，天使解释说：「圣灵要临到你身上，至高者的能力要荫庇你，因此所要生的圣者必称为神的儿子。」
- start: 232.996
  end: 239.161
  speaker: barron
  en: And Mary responded, Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord.
  zh: 马利亚回答说：「看哪，我是主的使女。」
- start: 239.341
  end: 242.063
  speaker: barron
  en: Be it done to me according to your word.
  zh: 「情愿照你的话成就在我身上。」
- start: 243.024
  end: 245.286
  speaker: barron
  en: And with that, the angel left her.
  zh: 于是，天使离开了她。
- start: 250.194
  end: 253.736
  speaker: barron
  en: What we see here is that Mary is the new Israel.
  zh: 我们在这里看到，马利亚是新的以色列。
- start: 254.456
  end: 261.14
  speaker: barron
  en: In the Old Testament, many people, when summoned, would run away from God, resisting his word.
  zh: 在旧约中，许多人在被召唤时会逃避神，抗拒他的话。
- start: 262.361
  end: 265.442
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, Mary does what God asks.
  zh: 而现在，马利亚遵行神的旨意。
- start: 267.263
  end: 271.926
  speaker: barron
  en: In some ways, the essence of the biblical drama is distilled in that encounter.
  zh: 从某种意义上说，这次相遇浓缩了圣经戏剧的精髓。
- start: 272.286
  end: 277.629
  speaker: barron
  en: We see the nature of God on display in the graceful, non-violent manner of invitation.
  zh: 我们在这优雅、非暴力的邀请方式中看到了神的本性。
- start: 278.473
  end: 288.719
  speaker: barron
  en: In story after story from the mythological tradition, when the gods intervene in human affairs, they do so violently, interruptively, in the manner of a rape.
  zh: 在神话传统的故事中，当神明介入人类事务时，他们往往以暴力、强制的方式干预，如同强奸一般。
- start: 289.76
  end: 294.143
  speaker: barron
  en: Whatever the opposite of rape is, it's on display in this story.
  zh: 这个故事展现的是与强奸完全相反的行为。
- start: 295.824
  end: 300.967
  speaker: barron
  en: Mary is invited, even, dare I say it, courted by God's messenger.
  zh: 马利亚被邀请，甚至可以说，被神的使者追求。
- start: 301.468
  end: 306.631
  speaker: barron
  en: Her freedom, her dignity are respected, and her curiosity is encouraged.
  zh: 她的自由和尊严受到尊重，她的好奇心也得到鼓励。
- start: 307.802
  end: 311.563
  speaker: barron
  en: And we see a human being in full in the person of Mary.
  zh: 我们在马利亚身上看到了一个完整的人。
- start: 313.444
  end: 319.726
  speaker: barron
  en: The church fathers were eager to contrast Mary, the mother of God, and Eve, the mother of all the living.
  zh: 教父们热衷于对比神的母亲马利亚和众生之母夏娃。
- start: 320.187
  end: 329.37
  speaker: barron
  en: At the decisive moment, Eve took the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, succumbing to the temptation to seize godliness.
  zh: 在关键时刻，夏娃摘取了分别善恶树上的果子，屈服于夺取神性的诱惑。
- start: 331.411
  end: 334.152
  speaker: barron
  en: Why had God forbidden the eating of that fruit?
  zh: 为什么神禁止吃那果子？
- start: 334.632
  end: 336.893
  speaker: barron
  en: Because he was jealous of human flourishing?
  zh: 是因为他嫉妒人类的繁荣吗？
- start: 338.807
  end: 338.807
  speaker: barron
  en: Hardly.
  zh: 绝非如此。
- start: 338.807
  end: 343.271
  speaker: barron
  en: That, in fact, is precisely the suggestion of the serpent, the father of lies.
  zh: 事实上，这正是那说谎之父蛇的暗示。
- start: 348.636
  end: 357.203
  speaker: barron
  en: God gave our first parents practically free reign in the garden, symbolizing thereby his desire that they be fully alive.
  zh: 神给予我们的始祖在伊甸园中几乎完全的自由，象征着他希望他们活得丰盛。
- start: 358.755
  end: 369.961
  speaker: barron
  en: Adam and Eve, at play in the field of the Lord, are evocative of the full range of human activity and achievement, from sports to politics to philosophy to art and science.
  zh: 亚当和夏娃在主的园中嬉戏，象征着人类活动和成就的全部范围，从体育到政治，从哲学到艺术和科学。
- start: 370.682
  end: 372.342
  speaker: barron
  en: So why the prohibition?
  zh: 那么为什么要有禁令呢？
- start: 373.183
  end: 376.685
  speaker: barron
  en: Because God wants us to fall in love with him.
  zh: 因为神希望我们爱上他。
- start: 380.047
  end: 387.971
  speaker: barron
  en: When two young people meet and are attracted to one another, they size each other up, they analyze and study and evaluate each other.
  zh: 当两个年轻人相遇并相互吸引时，他们会互相打量、分析、研究和评估。
- start: 388.345
  end: 396.408
  speaker: barron
  en: But their rapport will come to life only in the measure that, at the limit of this process, they fall in love.
  zh: 但他们的关系只有在这个过程的尽头，当他们坠入爱河时，才会真正活跃起来。
- start: 396.669
  end: 398.609
  speaker: barron
  en: They surrender to each other.
  zh: 他们彼此降服。
- start: 399.73
  end: 405.232
  speaker: barron
  en: At the end of all of our achieving, we must let ourselves be achieved by God.
  zh: 在我们所有成就的尽头，我们必须让自己被神所成就。
- start: 409.714
  end: 421.141
  speaker: barron
  en: And this is Mary, declaring herself the handmaid of the Lord and allowing herself to become the mother of God, though she barely glimpsed the full implications of what this would mean.
  zh: 这就是马利亚，她宣称自己是主的使女，让自己成为神的母亲，尽管她几乎无法完全理解这意味着什么。
- start: 423.042
  end: 426.783
  speaker: barron
  en: Her obedience reversed the temptation Her obedience reversed the disobedience of Eve.
  zh: 她的顺服扭转了夏娃的不顺服。
- start: 429.344
  end: 435.886
  speaker: barron
  en: Hence the medievals imagined the Ave, A-V-E, of the angel, reversing Ava.
  zh: 因此，中世纪的人想象天使的问安「万福」（Ave）是对「夏娃」（Eva）的颠倒。
- start: 443.108
  end: 460.49
  speaker: barron
  en: Theologian Hans Urs von Balthasar says that all of the forms of the Church's life spring from the Marian form, this acquiescence to the will of God, this attitude of fiat, let it be done to me according to your word.
  zh: 神学家汉斯·乌尔斯·冯·巴尔塔萨说，教会生活的所有形式都源于马利亚的形式，即顺从神的旨意，这种「愿照你的话成就在我身上」的态度。
- start: 467.694
  end: 473.442
  speaker: barron
  en: There's an explosion of interest in Mary in the West because of St. Bernard, go back to the 12th century.
  zh: 西方对马利亚的兴趣激增是因为圣伯纳德，可以追溯到12世纪。
- start: 473.583
  end: 478.83
  speaker: barron
  en: In the wake of Bernard, all the great cathedrals are Notre Dame, Notre Dame, they're all Our Lady.
  zh: 在伯纳德之后，所有伟大的大教堂都是圣母院，都是献给圣母的。
- start: 479.122
  end: 479.602
  speaker: barron
  en: Why is it?
  zh: 这是为什么呢？
- start: 479.602
  end: 485.664
  speaker: barron
  en: Some say because Europe was becoming more civilized, more gentle, so this feminine dimension was coming in.
  zh: 有人说是因为欧洲变得更加文明、更加温和，所以这种女性维度开始出现。
- start: 486.264
  end: 489.685
  speaker: barron
  en: But Mary's been there from the beginning, she's there in the scriptures.
  zh: 但马利亚从一开始就存在，她在圣经中就有记载。
- start: 489.685
  end: 493.927
  speaker: barron
  en: Church fathers are very interested in Mary, it's the New Eve, so she's always been there.
  zh: 教父们对马利亚非常感兴趣，她是新夏娃，所以她一直都在那里。
- start: 493.967
  end: 497.508
  speaker: barron
  en: I think it's just the very fact that Mary is the mother of God.
  zh: 我认为这仅仅是因为马利亚是神的母亲这个事实。
- start: 497.508
  end: 504.17
  speaker: barron
  en: That always struck people as utterly fascinating, that God would become so humble so as to have a human mother.
  zh: 神竟如此谦卑以至于有了一个人类母亲，这总是让人感到非常着迷。
- start: 504.781
  end: 509.545
  speaker: barron
  en: And if he has a mother, then he has cousins, and he has a grandmother and a grandfather.
  zh: 如果他有母亲，那么他就有堂兄弟姐妹，有祖母和祖父。
- start: 509.545
  end: 515.89
  speaker: barron
  en: I think it's a way of emphasizing the reality and density of the incarnation.
  zh: 我认为这是强调道成肉身的现实性和密度的一种方式。
- start: 515.89
  end: 517.511
  speaker: barron
  en: God really becomes flesh.
  zh: 神真的成为了肉身。
- start: 517.572
  end: 523.817
  speaker: barron
  en: And then Mary's associated with, as you say, mercy and gentleness, and she's our advocate.
  zh: 正如你所说，马利亚与怜悯和温柔联系在一起，她是我们的代求者。
- start: 523.817
  end: 525.758
  speaker: barron
  en: She's the advocate of the human race.
  zh: 她是人类的代求者。
- start: 560.083
  end: 566.285
  speaker: barron
  en: ♪♪ Mary is a pivotal figure in the history of salvation, for she's a bridge between the Old Testament and the New.
  zh: 马利亚是救恩历史中的关键人物，因为她是旧约和新约之间的桥梁。
- start: 566.845
  end: 577.129
  speaker: barron
  en: I know of no other sacred building that better exemplifies the connection between the Old and New Covenants than the Cathedral of Chartres, dedicated to Notre Dame, Our Lady.
  zh: 我不知道还有哪座圣殿比献给圣母的夏特尔大教堂更能体现旧约和新约之间的联系。
- start: 578.45
  end: 581.932
  speaker: barron
  en: But dedication doesn't capture the full meaning of it.
  zh: 但「献给」并不能完全捕捉其全部意义。
- start: 582.793
  end: 598.663
  speaker: barron
  en: Consult the wonderful book of Henry Adams called Mont Saint-Michel and Chartres to grasp that the medieval saw a building like this not only as dedicated to Mary, not only as Mary's dwelling place, but as a representation of Mary's body.
  zh: 参考亨利·亚当斯的精彩著作《圣米歇尔山和夏特尔》，你会明白中世纪人认为这样的建筑不仅是献给马利亚的，不仅是马利亚的居所，更是马利亚身体的象征。
- start: 600.685
  end: 609.635
  speaker: barron
  en: The apse of the cathedral corresponds to Mary's head, the transept to her arms, and the nave to her body.
  zh: 大教堂的后殿对应马利亚的头部，耳堂对应她的手臂，中殿对应她的身体。
- start: 605.271
  end: 620.507
  speaker: barron
  en: The labyrinth, a winding path inscribed within a circle, is located about two-thirds of the way down the nave, at the level of the womb.
  zh: 迷宫，一条刻在圆圈内的蜿蜒小路，位于中殿约三分之二处，与子宫的位置相对应。
- start: 636.707
  end: 642.511
  speaker: barron
  en: ♪♪♪ Behind me is the West Rose Window of Chartres Cathedral, one of the most magnificent in the world.
  zh: 在我身后是夏特尔大教堂的西玫瑰窗，是世界上最壮丽的玫瑰窗之一。
- start: 642.792
  end: 648.076
  speaker: barron
  en: It's the same size and circumference as the labyrinth on the floor of the cathedral.
  zh: 它的大小和周长与大教堂地板上的迷宫完全相同。
- start: 648.356
  end: 653.981
  speaker: barron
  en: When the light is right, the colors of that window shine down perfectly on the labyrinth.
  zh: 当光线恰到好处时，窗户的色彩会完美地照射在迷宫上。
- start: 654.301
  end: 661.847
  speaker: barron
  en: And so it speaks of the incarnation, of the impregnation of the womb of the Virgin by heavenly light.
  zh: 这象征着道成肉身，天国之光使童贞女的子宫受孕。
- start: 662.398
  end: 667.94
  speaker: barron
  en: And this association allows us to see more deeply into another aspect of the mystery of Mary.
  zh: 这种联系让我们能更深入地了解马利亚奥秘的另一个方面。
- start: 668.44
  end: 670.721
  speaker: barron
  en: Mary is Zion.
  zh: 马利亚就是锡安。
- start: 670.961
  end: 672.841
  speaker: barron
  en: She is Israel.
  zh: 她就是以色列。
- start: 672.841
  end: 682.024
  speaker: barron
  en: She sums up the great figures of this holy people, whom God had prepared over many centuries to receive his word.
  zh: 她集合了这个圣民的伟大人物，神用几个世纪的时间预备他们接受他的道。
- start: 686.126
  end: 690.107
  speaker: barron
  en: ♪♪♪ She is the daughter of Abraham, the first one to listen to God in faith.
  zh: 她是亚伯拉罕的女儿，第一个凭信心聆听神的人。
- start: 690.962
  end: 697.306
  speaker: barron
  en: She's like Sarah, Hannah, and the mother of Samson, since she gives birth against all expectations.
  zh: 她像撒拉、哈拿和参孙的母亲，因为她在所有人的意料之外生育。
- start: 699.067
  end: 704.751
  speaker: barron
  en: She's like Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, the great prophets who longed for the coming of the Messiah.
  zh: 她像以赛亚、耶利米和以西结，这些渴望弥赛亚来临的伟大先知。
- start: 706.932
  end: 715.878
  speaker: barron
  en: She is the fulfillment of the Ark of the Covenant and the temple, since she becomes, in the most realistic way possible, the bearer of the divine word.
  zh: 她是约柜和圣殿的应验，因为她以最实际的方式成为神的道的承载者。
- start: 717.56
  end: 726.002
  speaker: barron
  en: She's like the author of the Psalms and the books of wisdom and Proverbs, for she, as St. Luke puts it, reflects on these things in her heart.
  zh: 她像诗篇和智慧书、箴言的作者，因为正如路加所说，她把这些事存在心里。
- start: 728.262
  end: 738.424
  speaker: barron
  en: Mary is Israel at its best, faithful, patient, attentive to God's word, and quick to respond to the divine promptings.
  zh: 马利亚是以色列最好的代表，忠诚、耐心、专注于神的道，并迅速回应神的提示。
- start: 739.145
  end: 742.945
  speaker: barron
  en: How interesting that the word haste is used in connection with Mary.
  zh: 有趣的是，「急忙」这个词与马利亚联系在一起。
- start: 743.406
  end: 749.826
  speaker: barron
  en: St. Luke tells us that after the Annunciation, she proceeded in haste into the hill country.
  zh: 路加告诉我们，天使报喜后，她急忙往山地里去。
- start: 750.547
  end: 753.689
  speaker: barron
  en: Israel was often slow in responding to God.
  zh: 以色列常常迟缓地回应神。
- start: 754.21
  end: 756.251
  speaker: barron
  en: Mary moves.
  zh: 马利亚却行动迅速。
- start: 757.593
  end: 773.164
  speaker: barron
  en: At the wedding feast of Cana, Mary turns to the servants and says, in the cadences of every prophet, teacher, and patriarch of Israel, and these are her last recorded words in the Gospels, do whatever he tells you.
  zh: 在迦拿的婚宴上，马利亚转向仆人说，用每一位以色列先知、教师和族长的语调说道，这也是福音书中记录的她最后的话：「他告诉你们什么，你们就做什么。」
- start: 779.821
  end: 791.726
  speaker: barron
  en: I think there's a danger within Catholic piety to express Mary in an overly cloying, sentimental way, because she's not really a sentimental figure in the Bible.
  zh: 我认为公教会的虔诚中有一个危险，就是过于甜腻、感伤地表达马利亚，因为她在圣经中并不是一个感伤的人物。
- start: 792.347
  end: 794.207
  speaker: barron
  en: Mary receives this message.
  zh: 马利亚接受了这个信息。
- start: 794.227
  end: 801.27
  speaker: barron
  en: She's a canny young woman who asks the angel this sort of provocative question, well, how is this possible?
  zh: 她是一个精明的年轻女子，向天使提出这样一个发人深省的问题：「这怎么可能呢？」
- start: 801.811
  end: 805.912
  speaker: barron
  en: And her integrity and intelligence are respected, and then she knows what to do.
  zh: 她的正直和智慧受到尊重，然后她知道该怎么做。
- start: 806.013
  end: 816.367
  speaker: barron
  en: She proceeded in haste to the hill country to visit her cousin, and she moves through the history of salvation with this kind of courage and simplicity.
  zh: 她急忙往山地去拜访她的表姐，她以这种勇气和单纯穿越救恩历史。
- start: 816.367
  end: 818.229
  speaker: barron
  en: So she's not really a sentimental figure.
  zh: 所以她并不是一个感伤的人物。
- start: 818.229
  end: 821.112
  speaker: barron
  en: She's a strong biblical figure.
  zh: 她是一个坚强的圣经人物。
- start: 821.112
  end: 825.395
  speaker: barron
  en: She's the new Israel who follows the divine word.
  zh: 她是遵从神的道的新以色列。
- start: 825.556
  end: 829.279
  speaker: barron
  en: So maybe that would be a danger as we over-sentimentalize Mary.
  zh: 所以，过度感伤化马利亚可能是一种危险。
- start: 830.06
  end: 831.401
  speaker: barron
  en: She's the model disciple.
  zh: 她是模范门徒。
- start: 831.401
  end: 832.182
  speaker: barron
  en: Augustine said that.
  zh: 奥古斯丁说过这话。
- start: 832.182
  end: 835.945
  speaker: barron
  en: She's the first disciple, and so she's the model for all of us.
  zh: 她是第一个门徒，因此她是我们所有人的榜样。
- start: 848.712
  end: 854.094
  speaker: barron
  en: "[♪music playing♪♪ ♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪ As he was dying on the cross, Jesus looked to his mother and to the disciple whom he loved."
  zh: 耶稣在十字架上临终时，看着他的母亲和他所爱的门徒。
- start: 854.435
  end: 857.876
  speaker: barron
  en: And he said to Mary, Woman, here is your son.
  zh: 他对马利亚说：「母亲，看，你的儿子。」
- start: 858.417
  end: 861.158
  speaker: barron
  en: And then to John, here is your mother.
  zh: 然后对约翰说：「看，你的母亲。」
- start: 862.099
  end: 866.281
  speaker: barron
  en: We are told that from that hour, the disciple took her into his own home.
  zh: 我们被告知，从那时起，那门徒就把她接到自己家里。
- start: 876.283
  end: 886.447
  speaker: barron
  en: "[♪music playing♪♪♪ ♪♪♪♪♪♪♪ This text supports an ancient tradition that the Apostle John would have taken Mary with him when he traveled to Ephesus in Asia Minor, and they both ended their days in that city."
  zh: 这段经文支持了一个古老的传统，即使徒约翰在前往小亚细亚的以弗所时带上了马利亚，他们都在那座城市度过了晚年。
- start: 889.669
  end: 899.732
  speaker: barron
  en: Indeed, on the top of a high hill overlooking the Aegean Sea just outside of Ephesus, there's a modest dwelling that tradition holds to be the House of Mary.
  zh: 事实上，在以弗所城外俯瞰爱琴海的一座高山顶上，有一座简朴的住所，传统认为那就是马利亚的家。
- start: 917.017
  end: 920.879
  speaker: barron
  en: ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ I'm standing in the ruins of the ancient cathedral church at Ephesus.
  zh: 我正站在以弗所古代大教堂的遗迹中。
- start: 921.42
  end: 929.465
  speaker: barron
  en: A council took place here in the year 431. At issue was the articulation of the nature and person of Jesus.
  zh: 431年，一次大公会议在这里举行。争议的焦点是如何阐述耶稣的本性和位格。
- start: 930.126
  end: 933.388
  speaker: barron
  en: Go back to that question that Jesus himself posed at Banias.
  zh: 让我们回到耶稣自己在巴尼亚斯提出的那个问题。
- start: 933.648
  end: 936.07
  speaker: barron
  en: Who do people say that I am?
  zh: 「人们说我是谁？」
- start: 937.011
  end: 944.075
  speaker: barron
  en: That question haunted the mind of the early church, and the greatest intellects of the time strove mightily to answer it.
  zh: 这个问题困扰着早期教会的思想，当时最伟大的智者们都竭力回答它。
- start: 944.716
  end: 959.186
  speaker: barron
  en: Progress was made at the Council of Nicaea in 325, then the Council of Constantinople in 381. But in the 420s, a new controversy arose due to the teaching of Nestorius, who was the Bishop of Constantinople.
  zh: 325年的尼西亚大公会议和381年的君士坦丁堡大公会议都取得了进展。但在420年代，由于君士坦丁堡主教聂斯托利的教导，一场新的争议出现了。
- start: 959.787
  end: 965.11
  speaker: barron
  en: He was very influenced by the Antioch School, which placed a great stress on the humanity of Jesus.
  zh: 他深受安提阿学派的影响，该学派非常强调耶稣的人性。
- start: 965.771
  end: 974.057
  speaker: barron
  en: He said that in Christ, two persons come together, divine and human, in a sort of intense moral union.
  zh: 他说在基督里，神性和人性两个位格在一种强烈的道德联合中结合在一起。
- start: 974.542
  end: 985.35
  speaker: barron
  en: This meant that Mary, who was responsible for the human element in Jesus, could be called Christotokos, bearer of Christ, but not Theotokos, not mother of God.
  zh: 这意味着马利亚，作为耶稣人性部分的负责人，可以被称为基督之母，但不能被称为神之母。
- start: 985.391
  end: 989.633
  speaker: barron
  en: In fact, Nestorius thought it was the height of blasphemy to say that God has a mother.
  zh: 事实上，聂斯托利认为说神有一个母亲是最严重的亵渎。
- start: 990.394
  end: 996.639
  speaker: barron
  en: Cyril, who was the Bishop of Alexandria, took issue with this, and he thought that Nestorius was a heretic.
  zh: 亚历山大主教西里尔对此提出异议，他认为聂斯托利是异端。
- start: 997.0
  end: 1015.852
  speaker: barron
  en: He called for the council that met here in the summer of 431. After much deliberation, the council fathers determined that Jesus ought not to be thought of simply as a human person with an intense relationship to the person of God, for that would make him a sort of supreme saint, but not the incarnate son of God.
  zh: 他召集了431年夏天在这里举行的大公会议。经过深思熟虑，会议的教父们确定，不应该仅仅把耶稣看作是一个与神有密切关系的人，因为那样会使他成为一个至高的圣人，而不是道成肉身的神的儿子。
- start: 1016.634
  end: 1021.277
  speaker: barron
  en: In his unique person, divinity and humanity come together.
  zh: 在他独特的位格中，神性和人性结合在一起。
- start: 1021.518
  end: 1035.104
  speaker: barron
  en: And this means, the council fathers concluded, Nestorius was wrong to deny of Mary her title Theotokos, because if Jesus truly is divine and Mary is the mother of Jesus, she ought to be called the mother of God.
  zh: 因此，会议的教父们得出结论，聂斯托利否认马利亚的神之母称号是错误的，因为如果耶稣确实是神，而马利亚是耶稣的母亲，那么她应该被称为神的母亲。
- start: 1035.624
  end: 1042.03
  speaker: barron
  en: When this formal declaration was made, the common people of Ephesus celebrated that night with a torch-lit parade.
  zh: 当这个正式宣告发布时，以弗所的普通民众当晚举行了火把游行来庆祝。
- start: 1042.03
  end: 1052.738
  speaker: barron
  en: This is a very good example of the general principle that whatever we say about Mary is meant not so much to draw attention to her as to Christ.
  zh: 这很好地说明了一个普遍原则，即我们关于马利亚的任何言论，其目的不是吸引人注意她，而是注意基督。
- start: 1053.319
  end: 1064.044
  speaker: barron
  en: To say that Mary is the mother of God is to defend that densely textured claim that Jesus truly is divine, and that in him, God became one of us.
  zh: 说马利亚是神的母亲，是为了捍卫耶稣确实是神，而且在他里面，神成为我们中的一员这一内涵丰富的主张。
- start: 1064.745
  end: 1067.408
  speaker: barron
  en: Fulton J. Sheen said that Mary is like the moon.
  zh: 富尔顿·J·希恩说马利亚就像月亮。
- start: 1067.729
  end: 1072.234
  speaker: barron
  en: Hers is always a reflected light coming from a greater source.
  zh: 她总是反射来自更伟大光源的光。
- start: 1133.68
  end: 1141.543
  speaker: barron
  en: "[♪ choral singing continues ♪♪.] [♪ choral singing continues ♪♪.] There are two doctrines concerning Mary that were formally declared only in relatively recent years, but whose provenance is quite ancient."
  zh: 有两个关于马利亚的教义只是在相对近期才正式宣布，但它们的起源却相当古老。
- start: 1144.324
  end: 1149.186
  speaker: barron
  en: "[♪ choral singing continues ♪♪.] The dogmas of the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption of the Virgin."
  zh: 这就是无原罪怀孕和圣母升天的教义。
- start: 1150.007
  end: 1154.869
  speaker: barron
  en: Look how physical, even disturbingly so, these teachings are.
  zh: 看看这些教义是多么具体，甚至令人不安。
- start: 1155.209
  end: 1160.311
  speaker: barron
  en: How they compel us to see God's activity in regard to the lowly human body.
  zh: 它们如何迫使我们看到神对卑微人体的作为。
- start: 1160.985
  end: 1174.473
  speaker: unknown
  en: In this, once again, they are Christological in purpose since they speak of incarnation.
  zh: 在这一点上，它们再次具有基督论的目的，因为它们谈论的是道成肉身。
- start: 1174.473
  end: 1183.739
  speaker: barron
  en: "[♪ choral singing continues ♪♪.] In 1854, Pope Pius IX declared that Mary, through a special grace, was preserved free from original sin from the moment of her conception."
  zh: 1854年，教宗庇护九世宣布，马利亚通过特殊的恩典，从受孕的那一刻起就免于原罪。
- start: 1184.218
  end: 1189.18
  speaker: barron
  en: This is why the angel at the Annunciation could refer to her as full of grace.
  zh: 这就是为什么天使报喜时可以称她为「满有恩典」。
- start: 1189.82
  end: 1197.744
  speaker: barron
  en: Were she simply, like the rest of us, tainted by original sin, she would have fallen almost certainly into a variety of actual sins.
  zh: 如果她像我们其他人一样被原罪玷污，她几乎肯定会陷入各种实际的罪中。
- start: 1203.386
  end: 1206.508
  speaker: barron
  en: She would have lost her grace from the first moment of her life.
  zh: 她会从生命的第一刻就失去恩典。
- start: 1210.169
  end: 1211.67
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, why would God do this?
  zh: 那么，为什么神要这样做呢？
- start: 1212.017
  end: 1215.899
  speaker: barron
  en: And wouldn't this teaching somehow imply that Mary doesn't need to be saved?
  zh: 这种教导是否意味着马利亚不需要被拯救？
- start: 1216.56
  end: 1224.985
  speaker: barron
  en: Well, the answer traditionally to the first question is that God wants to prepare a worthy vessel for the reception of His Word.
  zh: 传统上对第一个问题的回答是，神想要预备一个配得上接受他的道的器皿。
- start: 1225.686
  end: 1236.993
  speaker: barron
  en: Just as the Holy of Holies in the Jerusalem Temple this definitive temple, this new Holy of Holies should be untrammeled.
  zh: 就像耶路撒冷圣殿中的至圣所一样，这个决定性的圣殿，这个新的至圣所应该是无拘无束的。
- start: 1237.894
  end: 1250.932
  speaker: barron
  en: He also knew that Mary would play a decisive role in the history of salvation, that she'd be tightly associated with the work of her Son.
  zh: 他也知道马利亚将在救恩历史中扮演决定性的角色，她将与她儿子的工作紧密相连。
- start: 1246.829
  end: 1250.932
  speaker: barron
  en: Therefore, it was fitting, appropriate, that she, like Him, should be sinless.
  zh: 因此，她像他一样无罪是合适的、恰当的。
- start: 1246.829
  end: 1257.277
  speaker: barron
  en: And the answer to the second question is this.
  zh: 对第二个问题的回答是这样的。
- start: 1257.697
  end: 1261.84
  speaker: barron
  en: Mary is, like the rest of us, saved by the grace of Christ.
  zh: 马利亚和我们其他人一样，都是靠基督的恩典得救。
- start: 1262.101
  end: 1272.368
  speaker: barron
  en: But since that grace is, properly speaking, eternal or outside of time, it can be applied in a way that undermines the ordinary rhythm of time.
  zh: 但由于这恩典严格来说是永恒的或超越时间的，它可以以一种打破普通时间规律的方式应用。
- start: 1272.907
  end: 1282.494
  speaker: barron
  en: Thus it was by a kind of preemptive strike that Christ's grace removed sin from the Blessed Mother, even before Christ appeared physically.
  zh: 因此，基督的恩典以一种先发制人的方式从圣母身上除去罪，甚至在基督以肉身出现之前。
- start: 1294.204
  end: 1302.37
  speaker: barron
  en: This doctrine received a most surprising ratification in a humble French town nestled in the foothills of the Pyrenees.
  zh: 这个教义在比利牛斯山麓一个humble的法国小镇上得到了最令人惊讶的确认。
- start: 1339.959
  end: 1348.164
  speaker: barron
  en: piano plays softly In February of 1858, the 6 members of the Soubirous family lived in this tiny one-room hovel.
  zh: 1858年2月，苏比鲁家的6名成员住在这个只有一个房间的简陋小屋里。
- start: 1348.545
  end: 1351.827
  speaker: barron
  en: It was called Le Cachot because it was a converted prison.
  zh: 它被称为「监狱」，因为它是一个改造过的监狱。
- start: 1352.324
  end: 1358.369
  speaker: barron
  en: The city officials of Lourdes evidently felt that the conditions here were too harsh and primitive for the prisoners.
  zh: 卢尔德市的官员显然认为这里的条件对囚犯来说太过严酷和原始。
- start: 1358.909
  end: 1361.971
  speaker: barron
  en: Really, it was little more than a cave.
  zh: 实际上，它几乎就是一个洞穴。
- start: 1367.036
  end: 1379.486
  speaker: barron
  en: On February the 11th, 1858, the eldest Soubirous child, Bernadette, made her way from this place to Massabielle, a garbage dump on the outskirts of the little town of Lourdes.
  zh: 1858年2月11日，苏比鲁家的长女贝尔纳黛特从这里出发，前往马萨比耶勒，那是卢尔德小镇郊外的一个垃圾场。
- start: 1382.902
  end: 1388.187
  speaker: barron
  en: She'd come there with one of her sisters and a friend to look for wood with which to heat her family's home.
  zh: 她和一个妹妹以及一个朋友一起来到那里寻找木柴，用来给家里取暖。
- start: 1388.748
  end: 1395.654
  speaker: barron
  en: While her friends scampered away, Bernadette, due to her asthma, stayed behind near the Gaub, a fast-flowing river.
  zh: 当她的朋友们跑开时，贝尔纳黛特因为哮喘病留在了高布河附近，那是一条湍急的河流。
- start: 1400.099
  end: 1408.366
  speaker: barron
  en: When she turned to see what had caused the stir, she spied a beautiful young woman clothed in white and with a yellow rose on each of her feet.
  zh: 当她转身查看是什么引起了骚动时，她看到一位身穿白衣的美丽年轻女子，她的每只脚上都有一朵黄玫瑰。
- start: 1412.617
  end: 1420.243
  speaker: barron
  en: Instinctually, Bernadette reached for her rosary and the woman, who had a spectacular rosary of pearl, began to pray along with her.
  zh: 贝尔纳黛特本能地拿出她的玫瑰念珠，那位拥有一串华丽珍珠玫瑰念珠的女子开始与她一起祈祷。
- start: 1420.723
  end: 1426.047
  speaker: barron
  en: When Bernadette finished the prayer, the woman smiled and disappeared.
  zh: 当贝尔纳黛特结束祈祷时，那位女子微笑着消失了。
- start: 1428.81
  end: 1434.974
  speaker: barron
  en: Bernadette felt compelled to return to Massabielle, so the next day she came to the spot with a few of her friends.
  zh: 贝尔纳黛特感到必须回到马萨比耶勒，所以第二天她带着几个朋友来到了那个地方。
- start: 1435.234
  end: 1440.178
  speaker: barron
  en: She again saw the lady, but this time the mysterious visitor spoke.
  zh: 她再次看到了那位女士，但这次这位神秘的访客开口说话了。
- start: 1440.737
  end: 1444.419
  speaker: barron
  en: Would you do me the favor of returning for the next 15 days?
  zh: 「你能否在接下来的15天里再来这里？」
- start: 1445.0
  end: 1447.021
  speaker: barron
  en: And then she had a message for the priests.
  zh: 然后她有一个给神父们的信息。
- start: 1448.482
  end: 1454.326
  speaker: barron
  en: Build a temple on this site and let processions come.
  zh: 「在这个地方建一座圣殿，让朝圣队伍来此。」
- start: 1471.297
  end: 1477.001
  speaker: barron
  en: When Bernadette brought this message to the parish priest, Fr. Parimal, she was sharply rebuked.
  zh: 当贝尔纳黛特把这个信息带给本堂神父帕里马尔时，她受到了严厉的斥责。
- start: 1477.642
  end: 1481.545
  speaker: barron
  en: Yet she continued, despite mockery and official opposition, to come.
  zh: 尽管遭到嘲笑和官方反对，她仍然继续来。
- start: 1482.346
  end: 1482.346
  speaker: barron
  en: On one of her visits, Fr. Parimal spoke to the priest and said, I have a message for you.
  zh: 在她的一次访问中，帕里马尔神父对那位神父说：「我有一个信息要告诉你。」
- start: 1482.346
  end: 1486.849
  speaker: barron
  en: On one of her visits, the lady asked her to dig into the ground and find a spring.
  zh: 在她的一次访问中，那位女士要求她挖地找到一处泉水。
- start: 1487.55
  end: 1490.812
  speaker: barron
  en: When she did so, people thought that she had lost her mind.
  zh: 当她这样做时，人们以为她疯了。
- start: 1491.633
  end: 1498.918
  speaker: barron
  en: But in time, water indeed flowed from the spot and eventually a severely crippled young boy was cured after bathing in it.
  zh: 但随着时间推移，水确实从那个地方流出，最终一个严重残疾的小男孩在其中沐浴后被治愈了。
- start: 1504.031
  end: 1508.674
  speaker: barron
  en: Bernadette came for those 15 days and communed with the lady.
  zh: 贝尔纳黛特在那15天里来到这里，与那位女士交流。
- start: 1508.874
  end: 1514.617
  speaker: barron
  en: But despite the speculations of many, she never claimed to know who this mysterious visitor was.
  zh: 但尽管许多人猜测，她从未声称知道这位神秘访客是谁。
- start: 1514.878
  end: 1522.062
  speaker: barron
  en: She referred to her only as the lady or in her own local dialect, aquero, that one.
  zh: 她只称她为「那位女士」，或用她当地方言称「aquero」，意思是「那一位」。
- start: 1524.343
  end: 1530.707
  speaker: barron
  en: On March 24th, the eve of the Feast of the Annunciation, she felt an inner impulse to go to the grotto.
  zh: 3月24日，天使报喜节前夕，她感到内心有一种冲动要去那个洞穴。
- start: 1533.806
  end: 1538.469
  speaker: barron
  en: The lady was there to meet her and Bernadette felt the urge to ask her name.
  zh: 那位女士在那里等她，贝尔纳黛特感到一种冲动想问她的名字。
- start: 1540.23
  end: 1548.756
  speaker: barron
  en: Three times she petitioned and finally the lady looked at her with a serious expression and her voice trembling with emotion.
  zh: 她请求了三次，最后那位女士用严肃的表情看着她，声音因情感而颤抖。
- start: 1549.117
  end: 1553.079
  speaker: barron
  en: She said, I am the Immaculate Conception.
  zh: 她说：「我是无原罪的始胎。」
- start: 1567.205
  end: 1572.446
  speaker: barron
  en: How wonderful and typical that Mary should appear to such a poor and humble soul.
  zh: 马利亚向这样一个贫穷humble的灵魂显现，是多么美妙和典型啊。
- start: 1576.127
  end: 1584.169
  speaker: barron
  en: In her great Magnificat in Luke's Gospel, Mary sings the praises of the God who cast down the mighty from their thrones and lifted up the lowly.
  zh: 在路加福音中她伟大的尊主颂里，马利亚赞美那使有权柄的失位，叫卑微的升高的神。
- start: 1586.549
  end: 1601.312
  speaker: barron
  en: Bernadette, who was herself something of a cave girl, was visited by the Immaculate Conception by the Queen of Heaven who received the message of the angel in a hovel and gave birth to the Son of God in a cave.
  zh: 贝尔纳黛特本身就像个洞穴女孩，她被无原罪始胎、天上的皇后所访问，这位皇后在一个简陋的小屋里接受了天使的信息，在一个洞穴里生下了神的儿子。
- start: 1621.949
  end: 1629.753
  speaker: barron
  en: We have such a prejudice, I think, is that we're these cool moderns who have these analytical scientific minds and those poor people back then, poor things.
  zh: 我认为我们有这样的偏见，认为我们是这些有分析科学头脑的酷现代人，而那些过去的可怜人，可怜的东西。
- start: 1629.874
  end: 1633.395
  speaker: barron
  en: This goofy girl comes up with this crazy story and they all believe her.
  zh: 这个傻女孩编造了这个疯狂的故事，他们都相信她。
- start: 1633.436
  end: 1636.317
  speaker: barron
  en: That's a complete act of condescension on our part.
  zh: 这完全是我们的居高临下。
- start: 1636.317
  end: 1637.518
  speaker: barron
  en: These were no fools.
  zh: 这些人并不愚蠢。
- start: 1637.518
  end: 1640.779
  speaker: barron
  en: I mean, they might have been uneducated, but they weren't fools.
  zh: 我的意思是，他们可能没有受过教育，但他们并不愚蠢。
- start: 1648.968
  end: 1657.392
  speaker: barron
  en: A set of criteria they used to determine the difference between someone who's just carrying on in a crazy way and someone who really has seen something.
  zh: 他们使用一套标准来判断一个人是在疯狂地胡闹还是真的看到了什么。
- start: 1658.032
  end: 1659.733
  speaker: barron
  en: They applied those criteria.
  zh: 他们应用了这些标准。
- start: 1659.733
  end: 1661.974
  speaker: barron
  en: They analyzed what she had said.
  zh: 他们分析了她所说的话。
- start: 1662.214
  end: 1666.016
  speaker: barron
  en: She was poked and prodded in so many ways.
  zh: 她被以各种方式盘问和试探。
- start: 1666.096
  end: 1675.3
  speaker: barron
  en: Part of the charm of Bernadette was that she was so blunt and ordinary and straightforward in her account, and she was very consistent.
  zh: 贝尔纳黛特的魅力部分在于她的叙述如此直白、平凡和坦率，而且非常一致。
- start: 1677.182
  end: 1683.248
  speaker: barron
  en: You know, there's a principle articulated by Gamaliel, it's in the Acts of the Apostles, when they were saying, shouldn't we get rid of these Christians?
  zh: 你知道，迦玛列提出了一个原则，记载在使徒行传中，当他们说，我们不应该除掉这些基督徒吗？
- start: 1683.248
  end: 1686.55
  speaker: barron
  en: And he very wisely said, look, why don't we leave them alone?
  zh: 他很明智地说，看，为什么我们不让他们自己发展？
- start: 1686.631
  end: 1689.032
  speaker: barron
  en: If they're not of God, they're just going to fade away.
  zh: 如果他们不是出于神，他们就会自行消失。
- start: 1689.113
  end: 1693.557
  speaker: barron
  en: If they are of God and we fight them, we will find ourselves fighting God.
  zh: 如果他们是出于神，而我们与他们对抗，我们就会发现自己是在与神对抗。
- start: 1693.557
  end: 1695.099
  speaker: barron
  en: That's a really good principle.
  zh: 这是一个很好的原则。
- start: 1695.099
  end: 1697.781
  speaker: barron
  en: So something's going on, something happened, what do we do?
  zh: 所以有事情发生了，我们该怎么办？
- start: 1697.781
  end: 1701.664
  speaker: barron
  en: Why don't we leave it alone, see what happens?
  zh: 为什么我们不置之不理，看看会发生什么？
- start: 1703.307
  end: 1708.671
  speaker: barron
  en: You know, when people have these so-called extraordinary visions or locutions or they've seen something, what's come of it?
  zh: 你知道，当人们有这些所谓的非凡异象或听到声音，或者他们看到了什么，结果如何？
- start: 1708.671
  end: 1710.892
  speaker: barron
  en: Nothing, it fades away over time.
  zh: 什么都没有，随着时间的推移就消失了。
- start: 1710.992
  end: 1717.937
  speaker: barron
  en: Then you look at this, and you say, well, the Gamaliel principle, if we were fighting this, we probably were fighting God.
  zh: 然后你看看这个，你会说，嗯，迦玛列原则，如果我们在与此对抗，我们可能是在与神对抗。
- start: 1739.949
  end: 1749.215
  speaker: barron
  en: The Assumption of the Virgin was declared as a dogma of the Church only in 1950 by Pope Pius XII, but the roots of this doctrine are very ancient.
  zh: 圣母升天只是在1950年由教宗庇护十二世宣布为教会的教义，但这一教义的根源非常古老。
- start: 1749.855
  end: 1755.979
  speaker: barron
  en: The teaching is that Mary, at the close of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heaven.
  zh: 这个教导是说，马利亚在她尘世生命结束时，身体和灵魂一起被提升到天上。
- start: 1756.76
  end: 1765.465
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, I know this can strike the modern mind as bizarre or mythological, but consider the non-dualistic, the non-dualistic, non-dualistic, non-dualistic, non-dualistic, non-dualistic, non-dualistic, But consider the non-dualism of the Bible.
  zh: 现在，我知道这对现代人的思维来说可能显得奇怪或神话化，但请考虑圣经的非二元论。
- start: 1766.232
  end: 1768.634
  speaker: barron
  en: Biblical religion is not Greek philosophy.
  zh: 圣经宗教不是希腊哲学。
- start: 1768.634
  end: 1771.896
  speaker: barron
  en: It doesn't set the soul over and against the body.
  zh: 它不把灵魂置于身体之上或与身体对立。
- start: 1772.096
  end: 1776.459
  speaker: barron
  en: Nor does it construe salvation as the escape of the soul from the body.
  zh: 它也不把救恩理解为灵魂从身体中逃脱。
- start: 1776.739
  end: 1783.804
  speaker: barron
  en: Rather, it sees salvation as the transfiguration, the perfection and elevation of the whole self.
  zh: 相反，它将救恩视为整个自我的改变、完善和提升。
- start: 1786.526
  end: 1791.91
  speaker: barron
  en: Indeed, it calls not for an escape from this world but for a new heavens and a new earth.
  zh: 事实上，它呼吁的不是逃离这个世界，而是新天新地。
- start: 1795.783
  end: 1798.544
  speaker: barron
  en: Mary assumed body and soul into heaven.
  zh: 马利亚身体和灵魂一起被提升到天上。
- start: 1798.544
  end: 1801.105
  speaker: barron
  en: And again, we shouldn't think about this in spatial terms.
  zh: 再次强调，我们不应该从空间角度来思考这个问题。
- start: 1801.105
  end: 1807.707
  speaker: barron
  en: It means just this elevation of Mary in the entirety of a person into the dimension of God.
  zh: 这意味着马利亚作为一个完整的人被提升到神的维度。
- start: 1808.687
  end: 1813.369
  speaker: barron
  en: At the end of the Apostles' Creed, we hear about the resurrection of the body.
  zh: 在使徒信经的结尾，我们听到关于身体复活的内容。
- start: 1813.609
  end: 1819.231
  speaker: barron
  en: Well, Mary is someone who's experienced precisely this definitive salvation.
  zh: 嗯，马利亚正是经历了这种决定性救恩的人。
- start: 1820.331
  end: 1847.291
  speaker: barron
  en: The doctrine of the Assumption of Mary takes with great seriousness this world of ours and these lowly bodies of ours.
  zh: 马利亚升天的教义非常严肃地对待我们的这个世界和我们这些卑微的身体。
- start: 1847.291
  end: 1852.234
  speaker: barron
  en: When we talk about the Dormition of Mary, which is actually a very interesting idea, we say that Mary fell asleep.
  zh: 当我们谈论马利亚的安眠时，这其实是一个很有趣的想法，我们说马利亚睡着了。
- start: 1852.466
  end: 1857.387
  speaker: barron
  en: What would it be like for a sinless person to pass from this world to the next world?
  zh: 对于一个无罪的人来说，从这个世界过渡到下一个世界会是什么样子？
- start: 1857.387
  end: 1862.649
  speaker: barron
  en: So we sinners, we experience death as something kind of horrible because we're alienated from God.
  zh: 所以我们这些罪人，我们经历死亡时会感到可怕，因为我们与神疏远。
- start: 1862.649
  end: 1865.629
  speaker: barron
  en: And so we approach death with a kind of horror or terror.
  zh: 因此我们带着某种恐惧或惊恐接近死亡。
- start: 1865.629
  end: 1866.969
  speaker: barron
  en: What if you were sinless?
  zh: 如果你是无罪的呢？
- start: 1867.15
  end: 1870.27
  speaker: barron
  en: Sinless, you're utterly responsive to God's will.
  zh: 无罪的你完全顺应神的旨意。
- start: 1873.651
  end: 1874.711
  speaker: barron
  en: And so you fall asleep.
  zh: 所以你就睡着了。
- start: 1874.711
  end: 1877.792
  speaker: barron
  en: When you fall asleep, when I fall asleep tonight, I don't do so in terror.
  zh: 当你入睡时，当我今晚入睡时，我并不感到恐惧。
- start: 1877.792
  end: 1881.073
  speaker: barron
  en: I do so with a great confidence I'm going to wake up and go on with my life.
  zh: 我这样做时充满信心，相信我会醒来继续我的生活。
- start: 1881.193
  end: 1888.22
  speaker: barron
  en: So a saint, or even now a sinless person, the sinless mother of God, wouldn't she fall asleep in the Lord?
  zh: 所以一位圣人，或者现在一个无罪的人，无罪的神的母亲，难道她不会在主里安睡吗？
- start: 1888.241
  end: 1893.486
  speaker: barron
  en: To me, it's a very telling way to describe the difference of the way Mary left this world.
  zh: 对我来说，这是一种很能说明问题的方式，描述了马利亚离开这个世界的不同方式。
- start: 1893.927
  end: 1904.037
  speaker: barron
  en: So I think those teachings about Mary, though they can strike us first as kind of weird and mythological, they're telling, they cut right to the heart of what Christianity is about.
  zh: 所以我认为，那些关于马利亚的教导，尽管一开始可能让我们觉得有点奇怪和神话化，但它们很有说服力，直指基督教的核心。
- start: 1915.629
  end: 1927.273
  speaker: barron
  en: Immaculate Mary, the mother of God, assumed body and soul into heaven, is not of merely historical interest, nor is she simply a powerful spiritual exemplar.
  zh: 无原罪的马利亚，神的母亲，身体和灵魂被提升到天上，这不仅仅具有历史意义，她也不仅仅是一个强大的属灵榜样。
- start: 1927.873
  end: 1935.576
  speaker: barron
  en: Rather, as the queen of all the saints, Mary is an ongoing presence, an actor in the life of the church.
  zh: 相反，作为众圣徒的皇后，马利亚是一个持续的存在，是教会生活中的一个行动者。
- start: 1936.235
  end: 1940.922
  speaker: barron
  en: Her basic task, as always, is to draw people into fellowship with her son.
  zh: 她的基本任务，一如既往，是把人们带入与她儿子的团契中。
- start: 1941.683
  end: 1949.535
  speaker: barron
  en: The church believes that, in a mysterious way, Mary continues to say yes to God and to go forth on mission.
  zh: 教会相信，以一种神秘的方式，马利亚继续对神说「是」，并继续执行使命。
- start: 1966.38
  end: 1972.203
  speaker: barron
  en: There are literally tens of thousands of reports of apparitions of the Blessed Mother up and down the Catholic centuries.
  zh: 在公教会的历史中，有数以万计关于圣母显现的报告。
- start: 1972.484
  end: 1975.185
  speaker: barron
  en: We've already explored the appearance to Bernadette at Lourdes.
  zh: 我们已经探讨了在卢尔德向贝尔纳黛特显现的事件。
- start: 1975.185
  end: 1988.013
  speaker: barron
  en: I want now to turn to a most extraordinary encounter between the Blessed Mother and, typically enough, one of her little ones.
  zh: 现在我想转向圣母与她的一个小子之间最不寻常的相遇，这是很典型的。
- start: 1990.894
  end: 2005.604
  speaker: barron
  en: On December the 9th, 1531, just about ten years after the Spaniards first brought the faith to this part of the world, an Indian man named Juan Diego, a recent convert to the faith, was making his way here along this hill of Tepeyac where I'm standing.
  zh: 1531年12月9日，就在西班牙人首次将信仰带到这个世界的这个地方大约十年后，一个名叫胡安·迭戈的印第安人，一个刚皈依的信徒，正沿着我现在站立的特佩亚克山行走。
- start: 2005.604
  end: 2007.205
  speaker: barron
  en: He was on his way to Mass.
  zh: 他正在去参加弥撒的路上。
- start: 2007.546
  end: 2009.947
  speaker: barron
  en: He heard a burst of bird song.
  zh: 他听到一阵鸟鸣声。
- start: 2009.947
  end: 2013.99
  speaker: barron
  en: He turned to see where it was coming from, and he saw an extraordinary sight.
  zh: 他转身看声音从哪里来，看到了一个非凡的景象。
- start: 2015.271
  end: 2018.613
  speaker: barron
  en: It was a celestial light.
  zh: 那是一道天国的光。
- start: 2019.21
  end: 2025.456
  speaker: barron
  en: She announced herself as the Mother of the Most High God, and she had a simple request for Juan Diego.
  zh: 她宣布自己是至高神的母亲，并对胡安·迭戈提出了一个简单的请求。
- start: 2025.657
  end: 2029.521
  speaker: barron
  en: He would ask the bishop to build a temple here in her honor.
  zh: 他要请求主教在这里建一座圣殿来纪念她。
- start: 2030.522
  end: 2034.306
  speaker: barron
  en: Being a simple, humble man, Juan Diego went directly to the bishop.
  zh: 作为一个简单humble的人，胡安·迭戈直接去见了主教。
- start: 2034.606
  end: 2036.248
  speaker: barron
  en: He relayed the story to him.
  zh: 他向主教转述了这个故事。
- start: 2036.428
  end: 2040.152
  speaker: barron
  en: He took it in, but he also said, I'd like a sign.
  zh: 主教听进去了，但他也说，我想要一个标记。
- start: 2041.368
  end: 2044.609
  speaker: barron
  en: Juan Diego returned here to Tepeyac on December the 12th.
  zh: 12月12日，胡安·迭戈回到了特佩亚克。
- start: 2044.65
  end: 2047.051
  speaker: barron
  en: She invited him to take off his tilma.
  zh: 她邀请他脱下他的斗篷。
- start: 2047.051
  end: 2049.692
  speaker: barron
  en: That was the simple, coarse garment worn by peasants.
  zh: 那是农民穿的简单粗糙的衣服。
- start: 2049.692
  end: 2052.413
  speaker: barron
  en: It was woven from cactus fibers.
  zh: 它是用仙人掌纤维编织的。
- start: 2052.914
  end: 2059.377
  speaker: barron
  en: In that tilma, she helped him to arrange a group of roses that were blooming despite the lateness of the year.
  zh: 在那件斗篷里，她帮他安排了一束玫瑰花，尽管已是年末，这些花仍在盛开。
- start: 2059.537
  end: 2061.458
  speaker: barron
  en: That would be the sign for the bishop.
  zh: 那将是给主教的标记。
- start: 2061.738
  end: 2063.719
  speaker: barron
  en: Juan Diego took the bundle of roses.
  zh: 胡安·迭戈拿着那束玫瑰。
- start: 2063.719
  end: 2065.34
  speaker: barron
  en: He went directly to the bishop.
  zh: 他直接去见主教。
- start: 2065.751
  end: 2067.412
  speaker: barron
  en: He was made to wait for a while.
  zh: 他被要求等了一会儿。
- start: 2067.432
  end: 2072.536
  speaker: barron
  en: They say that officious aides of the bishop tried to find out what he was hiding in the tilma, but he wouldn't show them.
  zh: 据说主教的一些多事的助手试图查看他在斗篷里藏了什么，但他不肯给他们看。
- start: 2072.897
  end: 2075.539
  speaker: barron
  en: Finally, he was ushered into the bishop's presence.
  zh: 最后，他被引见到主教面前。
- start: 2075.559
  end: 2084.907
  speaker: barron
  en: He opened the tilma, the roses filled to the ground, but then to his great surprise, the bishop and his aides were kneeling because something even more amazing had happened.
  zh: 他打开斗篷，玫瑰花洒落一地，但令他大为惊讶的是，主教和他的助手们都跪下了，因为发生了更加惊人的事。
- start: 2087.269
  end: 2092.814
  speaker: barron
  en: On the inside of the tilma, there was the image of the woman clothed in light.
  zh: 在斗篷的内侧，出现了一个身披光明的女子的图像。
- start: 2102.685
  end: 2114.708
  speaker: barron
  en: One might be tempted to say, oh, it's a charming story from a simpler, more credulous time, but the best counterindication to the skeptics is the tilma itself, which you can see directly behind me.
  zh: 有人可能会说，哦，这只是一个来自更简单、更容易轻信的时代的迷人故事，但对怀疑者最好的反证就是斗篷本身，你可以在我身后直接看到它。
- start: 2115.049
  end: 2118.429
  speaker: barron
  en: Studies have shown that it is indeed from the 16th century.
  zh: 研究表明它确实来自16世纪。
- start: 2118.81
  end: 2126.012
  speaker: barron
  en: It is indeed woven from those simple cactus fibers, which under the best of circumstances would normally last 20 or 25 years.
  zh: 它确实是由那些简单的仙人掌纤维编织而成，在最好的情况下通常只能保存20或25年。
- start: 2128.815
  end: 2130.656
  speaker: barron
  en: And yet, there it is.
  zh: 然而，它就在那里。
- start: 2131.997
  end: 2140.623
  speaker: unknown
  en: 500 years later.
  zh: 500年后。
- start: 2143.705
  end: 2144.866
  speaker: barron
  en: And the image.
  zh: 还有那个图像。
- start: 2145.186
  end: 2147.828
  speaker: barron
  en: The strange and beautiful image.
  zh: 那个奇异而美丽的图像。
- start: 2149.149
  end: 2155.753
  speaker: barron
  en: Careful studies have revealed that no known pigmentation was involved in the making of it, and no underdrawing is discernible.
  zh: 仔细的研究表明，在制作过程中没有使用已知的颜料，也看不出有任何底图。
- start: 2156.812
  end: 2160.676
  speaker: barron
  en: More to it, the symbolic power of it is extraordinary.
  zh: 更重要的是，它的象征力量非凡。
- start: 2162.338
  end: 2164.099
  speaker: barron
  en: Here is a mestiza.
  zh: 这是一个混血女子。
- start: 2164.48
  end: 2169.045
  speaker: barron
  en: Not a Spaniard, not an Aztec, but a blend of the two races.
  zh: 不是西班牙人，也不是阿兹特克人，而是两个种族的混合。
- start: 2169.606
  end: 2174.25
  speaker: barron
  en: She's called by the Mexicans la morena, the brown-skinned girl.
  zh: 墨西哥人称她为「la morena」，意为棕色皮肤的女孩。
- start: 2175.713
  end: 2179.276
  speaker: barron
  en: The stincture that she wears was an Aztec sign of pregnancy.
  zh: 她所穿的腰带是阿兹特克人表示怀孕的标志。
- start: 2180.839
  end: 2186.121
  speaker: barron
  en: She stands in front of the sun and on the moon, and her cloak is bedecked with stars.
  zh: 她站在太阳前面，脚踏月亮，她的斗篷上点缀着星星。
- start: 2186.681
  end: 2191.043
  speaker: barron
  en: Sun, moon, and stars were all gods for the ancient Aztecs.
  zh: 太阳、月亮和星星都是古代阿兹特克人的神。
- start: 2192.263
  end: 2194.704
  speaker: barron
  en: This woman is greater than they.
  zh: 这个女子比它们更伟大。
- start: 2195.484
  end: 2203.067
  speaker: barron
  en: At the same time, she keeps her eyes down and her hands folded in prayer, acknowledging that there is one greater than she.
  zh: 同时，她低垂着眼睛，双手合十祈祷，承认有一位比她更伟大的存在。
- start: 2204.813
  end: 2210.619
  speaker: barron
  en: And her name, Guadalupe, is probably a Spanish deformation of coatlazupe.
  zh: 她的名字，瓜达卢佩，可能是西班牙语对「coatlazupe」的音变。
- start: 2210.859
  end: 2214.162
  speaker: barron
  en: It means the one who crushes the serpent.
  zh: 它的意思是「那位践踏蛇的人」。
- start: 2214.884
  end: 2222.251
  speaker: barron
  en: The serpent was another chief Aztec divinity, and the crusher of the serpent is the one predicted in the book of Genesis.
  zh: 蛇是另一个主要的阿兹特克神祇，而践踏蛇的人就是创世记中预言的那一位。
- start: 2229.597
  end: 2237.521
  speaker: barron
  en: It is an undisputed fact that within 10 years of the apparition, almost the entire Mexican nation was converted to Christianity.
  zh: 一个无可争议的事实是，在显现后的10年内，几乎整个墨西哥国家都皈依了基督教。
- start: 2239.182
  end: 2240.482
  speaker: barron
  en: 9 million people.
  zh: 900万人。
- start: 2240.863
  end: 2245.505
  speaker: barron
  en: This amounts to approximately 3,000 people per day for 10 years.
  zh: 这相当于10年内每天约有3,000人皈依。
- start: 2245.925
  end: 2249.407
  speaker: barron
  en: A mini Pentecost every day for a decade.
  zh: 十年中每天都有一个小型的五旬节。
- start: 2250.566
  end: 2254.971
  speaker: barron
  en: And the image continues to beguile, fascinate, and beckon.
  zh: 这个图像继续吸引、迷惑和召唤着人们。
- start: 2255.572
  end: 2260.397
  speaker: barron
  en: The shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe is one of the most visited religious sites in the Christian world.
  zh: 瓜达卢佩圣母圣殿是基督教世界中访问量最大的宗教场所之一。
- start: 2261.198
  end: 2264.662
  speaker: barron
  en: People come here by the millions to commune with la morena.
  zh: 数百万人来到这里与「la morena」（棕色皮肤的女子）交流。
- start: 2265.403
  end: 2271.71
  speaker: barron
  en: Some approaching her in supplication, penitence, or gratitude on their knees.
  zh: 有些人跪着接近她，表示恳求、忏悔或感恩。
- start: 2284.498
  end: 2289.802
  speaker: barron
  en: There are literally tens of thousands of stories of Marian apparitions up and down the centuries.
  zh: 几个世纪以来，确实有数以万计的圣母显现的故事。
- start: 2289.802
  end: 2294.845
  speaker: barron
  en: Let's say many of which, if not most of which, are questionable.
  zh: 可以说，其中许多，如果不是大多数的话，都是值得质疑的。
- start: 2294.918
  end: 2300.262
  speaker: barron
  en: There are, however, some, maybe a handful, that are harder to dismiss, and they kind of haunt the mind.
  zh: 然而，有一些，也许只是少数，是很难被轻易否定的，它们在某种程度上萦绕在人们心头。
- start: 2300.262
  end: 2308.807
  speaker: barron
  en: There's something about the detail of them, something about the integrity of the account, but then also, I would say, the consequences.
  zh: 它们的细节有些特别之处，叙述的完整性也有些特别，但我要说，更重要的是它们的后果。
- start: 2308.887
  end: 2312.77
  speaker: barron
  en: You judge the spiritual act by its fruit.
  zh: 你通过其果实来判断这种属灵行为。
- start: 2312.77
  end: 2314.031
  speaker: barron
  en: What's the result of it?
  zh: 它的结果是什么？
- start: 2314.031
  end: 2321.696
  speaker: barron
  en: You look at a place like this, and you can see this massive, which is the most extraordinary thing about Guadalupe.
  zh: 你看看这样的地方，你可以看到这种巨大的影响，这是瓜达卢佩最非凡的地方。
- start: 2321.736
  end: 2325.4
  speaker: barron
  en: Within 10 years of the apparition, the entire country has been converted.
  zh: 在显现后的10年内，整个国家都皈依了。
- start: 2325.44
  end: 2329.624
  speaker: barron
  en: Where prior to that, the Franciscans had about 10 years, they'd made very few inroads.
  zh: 在此之前，方济各会士花了大约10年时间，却几乎没有取得什么进展。
- start: 2329.624
  end: 2331.987
  speaker: barron
  en: Juan Diego was kind of an odd duck.
  zh: 胡安·迭戈有点与众不同。
- start: 2331.987
  end: 2333.528
  speaker: barron
  en: An Aztec would become a Christian.
  zh: 一个阿兹特克人会成为基督徒。
- start: 2333.569
  end: 2336.572
  speaker: barron
  en: In the wake of Guadalupe, the entire country is converted.
  zh: 在瓜达卢佩事件之后，整个国家都皈依了。
- start: 2336.572
  end: 2341.096
  speaker: barron
  en: And then, to this day, almost 500 years later, people still come.
  zh: 而且，直到今天，将近500年后，人们仍然在来。
- start: 2341.795
  end: 2350.14
  speaker: barron
  en: Contrasted to kind of a silly thing, where people see an image of Mary in the salt dripping from the highway overpass.
  zh: 相比之下，有些事情就显得有点愚蠢，比如人们在高速公路天桥上滴落的盐中看到马利亚的图像。
- start: 2350.14
  end: 2351.961
  speaker: barron
  en: Remember, that was a few years ago in Chicago.
  zh: 记得几年前在芝加哥发生过这样的事。
- start: 2351.961
  end: 2353.442
  speaker: barron
  en: Well, no one bothers about that.
  zh: 嗯，没有人在意那个。
- start: 2353.442
  end: 2354.742
  speaker: barron
  en: That had no effect.
  zh: 那没有产生任何影响。
- start: 2354.742
  end: 2356.463
  speaker: barron
  en: No one goes there to this day.
  zh: 直到今天也没有人去那里。
- start: 2356.884
  end: 2359.805
  speaker: barron
  en: So I think you judge it by its fruit, by its consequences.
  zh: 所以我认为你应该通过它的果实，通过它的后果来判断它。
- start: 2387.765
  end: 2392.428
  speaker: barron
  en: I'm standing on top of the Pyramid of the Sun in the ancient city of Teotihuacan.
  zh: 我正站在特奥蒂瓦坎古城的太阳金字塔顶上。
- start: 2392.609
  end: 2395.13
  speaker: barron
  en: Behind me, you can see the Pyramid of the Moon.
  zh: 在我身后，你可以看到月亮金字塔。
- start: 2395.171
  end: 2399.433
  speaker: barron
  en: This is one of the most beautiful examples of pre-Columbian architecture.
  zh: 这是前哥伦布时期建筑最美丽的例子之一。
- start: 2401.295
  end: 2403.156
  speaker: barron
  en: Despite the beauty of the architecture, it's also a place that chills us a bit.
  zh: 尽管建筑很美，但这也是一个让我们感到有些寒意的地方。
- start: 2403.156
  end: 2403.156
  speaker: barron
  en: Because we realize that we're in a place that's been around for thousands of years.
  zh: 因为我们意识到我们所处的地方已经存在了数千年。
- start: 2403.156
  end: 2403.156
  speaker: barron
  en: It's a place that's been around for thousands of years.
  zh: 这是一个存在了数千年的地方。
- start: 2403.156
  end: 2405.458
  speaker: barron
  en: It's also a place that chills us a bit.
  zh: 这也是一个让我们感到有些寒意的地方。
- start: 2405.478
  end: 2412.163
  speaker: barron
  en: Because we realize that here, as in so many other places like it in ancient Mexico, human sacrifice took place.
  zh: 因为我们意识到，在这里，就像古代墨西哥的许多其他地方一样，曾经发生过人祭。
- start: 2412.458
  end: 2416.681
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, mind you, I'm not trying to demonize the ancient Aztec or Mayan cultures.
  zh: 请注意，我并不是想妖魔化古代阿兹特克或玛雅文化。
- start: 2416.681
  end: 2419.922
  speaker: barron
  en: Many ancient cultures practiced human sacrifice.
  zh: 许多古代文化都有人祭的习俗。
- start: 2420.243
  end: 2428.388
  speaker: barron
  en: In fact, if the contemporary philosopher René Girard is right, something like human sacrifice lies at the foundation of most human societies.
  zh: 事实上，如果当代哲学家勒内·吉拉尔是对的，那么类似人祭的东西就存在于大多数人类社会的基础之中。
- start: 2429.148
  end: 2433.931
  speaker: barron
  en: Girard says this, Tensions naturally arise within human communities.
  zh: 吉拉尔说，人类社会中自然会产生紧张关系。
- start: 2433.931
  end: 2438.514
  speaker: barron
  en: And then what kicks in is what he called a scapegoating mechanism.
  zh: 然后启动的是他所称的替罪羊机制。
- start: 2438.795
  end: 2442.876
  speaker: barron
  en: We tend to find someone or some group to blame.
  zh: 我们倾向于找某个人或某个群体来责备。
- start: 2442.916
  end: 2446.117
  speaker: barron
  en: And we cast, as it were, our anxieties onto them.
  zh: 我们可以说是把我们的焦虑投射到他们身上。
- start: 2446.317
  end: 2447.838
  speaker: barron
  en: We persecute them.
  zh: 我们迫害他们。
- start: 2447.938
  end: 2449.058
  speaker: barron
  en: We ostracize them.
  zh: 我们排斥他们。
- start: 2449.058
  end: 2451.119
  speaker: barron
  en: At the limit, we kill them.
  zh: 在极端情况下，我们杀死他们。
- start: 2451.499
  end: 2455.72
  speaker: barron
  en: And in that process, we feel a kind of renewal of our community.
  zh: 在这个过程中，我们感到我们的社区得到了某种更新。
- start: 2456.8
  end: 2457.0
  speaker: barron
  en: And in that process, we feel a kind of renewal of our community.
  zh: 在这个过程中，我们感到我们的社区得到了某种更新。
- start: 2457.0
  end: 2463.832
  speaker: barron
  en: This explains why, on Girard's reading, ancient people saw the gods as pleased with scapegoating violence.
  zh: 这解释了为什么，按吉拉尔的理解，古人认为神明喜欢替罪羊式的暴力。
- start: 2463.832
  end: 2469.914
  speaker: barron
  en: That's why here, on top of pyramids like this, when they would raise the still-beating heart of the victim to the gods, they were seen as placating these powers that govern the universe.
  zh: 这就是为什么在这样的金字塔顶上，当他们将受害者还在跳动的心脏举向神明时，他们被视为在安抚这些统治宇宙的力量。
- start: 2469.914
  end: 2473.574
  speaker: barron
  en: they were seen as placating these powers that govern the universe.
  zh: 他们被视为在安抚这些统治宇宙的力量。
- start: 2474.515
  end: 2486.438
  speaker: barron
  en: Something René Girard found very interesting is, in that great biblical story of the temptation of Jesus, when the devil displays before him all the kingdoms of the world, Jesus uses this term.
  zh: 勒内·吉拉尔发现一件非常有趣的事，在那个伟大的圣经故事中，当魔鬼在耶稣面前展示世上所有的国度时，耶稣使用了这个词。
- start: 2486.438
  end: 2493.382
  speaker: barron
  en: He says, means the accuser, the blamer.
  zh: 他说，这意味着控告者，责备者。
- start: 2493.462
  end: 2496.763
  speaker: barron
  en: The implication is that somehow, at the foundation of society, is something like this scapegoating mechanism.
  zh: 这暗示着，在某种程度上，社会的基础中存在着类似这样的替罪羊机制。
- start: 2496.763
  end: 2500.264
  speaker: barron
  en: is something like this scapegoating mechanism.
  zh: 是类似这样的替罪羊机制。
- start: 2501.804
  end: 2515.214
  speaker: barron
  en: Our Lady of Guadalupe, when she appeared to Juan Diego, said, She was announcing the emergence into the world of the true God, who, at the climax of his life, became not the perpetrator of scapegoating violence, but precisely the victim of it.
  zh: 瓜达卢佩圣母在向胡安·迭戈显现时说，她宣告真神进入世界，这位神在他生命的高潮时刻，不是成为替罪羊暴力的施加者，而恰恰成为了它的受害者。
- start: 2515.214
  end: 2515.214
  speaker: barron
  en: In Jesus Crucified, we see that the true God stands not on the side of the victimizers, but precisely on the side of the victims.
  zh: 在被钉十字架的耶稣身上，我们看到真神不是站在施暴者一边，而恰恰是站在受害者一边。
- start: 2515.214
  end: 2515.214
  speaker: barron
  en: The world is ordered not through violence.
  zh: 世界的秩序不是通过暴力建立的。
- start: 2515.214
  end: 2518.237
  speaker: barron
  en: The world is ordered precisely through love and through nonviolence.
  zh: 世界的秩序恰恰是通过爱和非暴力建立的。
- start: 2541.448
  end: 2549.653
  speaker: barron
  en: I labor under no illusions that the Spaniards who brought the faith to this part of the world were angels, or that no atrocities were perpetrated in the name of Christ.
  zh: 我并不幻想将信仰带到这个世界这一部分的西班牙人是天使，也不认为没有以基督的名义犯下暴行。
- start: 2549.653
  end: 2550.593
  speaker: barron
  en: There were.
  zh: 确实有过。
- start: 2550.874
  end: 2554.415
  speaker: barron
  en: However, this great message came through.
  zh: 然而，这个伟大的信息传递了下来。
- start: 2554.736
  end: 2560.059
  speaker: barron
  en: As Mexico was evangelized, this practice of human sacrifice ended.
  zh: 随着墨西哥的福音化，人祭的习俗结束了。
- start: 2560.119
  end: 2567.123
  speaker: barron
  en: And there, I think, is a prime example of how the evangelization of the country changed the very nature of the society.
  zh: 我认为，这是一个很好的例子，说明了国家的福音化如何改变了社会的本质。
- start: 2585.835
  end: 2590.957
  speaker: barron
  en: In the first chapter of the Gospel of Luke, we find Mary's great hymn of praise to Yahweh.
  zh: 在路加福音的第一章，我们找到了马利亚对耶和华的伟大赞美诗。
- start: 2591.458
  end: 2596.38
  speaker: barron
  en: It commences with the simple declaration, My soul magnifies the Lord.
  zh: 它以一个简单的宣告开始：「我心尊主为大。」
- start: 2597.14
  end: 2598.38
  speaker: barron
  en: Mary announces here that her whole being is ordered to the glorification of God.
  zh: 马利亚在这里宣告她的整个存在都是为了荣耀神。
- start: 2598.38
  end: 2598.38
  speaker: barron
  en: She is ordered to glorify God.
  zh: 她被命定要荣耀神。
- start: 2598.38
  end: 2598.38
  speaker: barron
  en: She is ordered to glorify God.
  zh: 她被命定要荣耀神。
- start: 2598.38
  end: 2598.38
  speaker: barron
  en: She is ordered to glorify God.
  zh: 她被命定要荣耀神。
- start: 2598.38
  end: 2601.501
  speaker: barron
  en: Her whole being is ordered to the glorification of God.
  zh: 她的整个存在都是为了荣耀神。
- start: 2602.161
  end: 2604.682
  speaker: barron
  en: Her ego wants nothing for itself.
  zh: 她的自我不为自己要求任何东西。
- start: 2604.682
  end: 2607.962
  speaker: barron
  en: It wants only to be an occasion for giving honor to God.
  zh: 它只想成为一个荣耀神的机会。
- start: 2608.643
  end: 2619.805
  speaker: barron
  en: But since, as we've seen, God needs nothing, whatever glory Mary gives to Him returns to her benefit, so that she is magnified in the very act of magnifying Him.
  zh: 但是，正如我们所看到的，神不需要任何东西，马利亚给予他的任何荣耀都会回报给她自己，所以她在尊主为大的行为中自己也被尊为大。
- start: 2621.474
  end: 2627.358
  speaker: barron
  en: In giving herself away fully to God, Mary becomes a superabundant source of life.
  zh: 通过完全献身于神，马利亚成为了一个丰盛的生命之源。
- start: 2627.678
  end: 2630.46
  speaker: barron
  en: Indeed, she becomes pregnant with God.
  zh: 事实上，她怀了神。
- start: 2631.141
  end: 2650.73
  speaker: barron
  en: This odd and wonderful rhythm of magnifying and being magnified is the key to understanding everything about Mary, from her divine motherhood to her Assumption and Immaculate Conception and to her mission in the life of the Church.
  zh: 这种奇特而美妙的尊主为大和被尊为大的节奏是理解马利亚一切的关键，从她的神圣母性到她的升天和无原罪怀孕，再到她在教会生活中的使命。
- start: 2650.73
  end: 2661.233
  speaker: barron
  en: The great 19th century Jesuit poet, Jared Manley Hopkins, caught this in his ballad, The May Magnificat.
  zh: 19世纪伟大的耶稣会诗人杰拉德·曼利·霍普金斯在他的诗歌《五月颂》中捕捉到了这一点。
- start: 2661.893
  end: 2666.594
  speaker: barron
  en: He wonders in the first few stanzas why May should be a month dedicated to Mary.
  zh: 他在开头几节中思考为什么五月应该是献给马利亚的月份。
- start: 2666.835
  end: 2671.536
  speaker: barron
  en: And he provides Mary's own answer, writing, Ask of her the mighty mother.
  zh: 他提供了马利亚自己的答案，写道：「问那伟大的母亲。」
- start: 2671.536
  end: 2672.576
  speaker: barron
  en: Her reply puts this other question, growth in everything.
  zh: 她的回答提出了另一个问题，万物生长。
- start: 2681.86
  end: 2688.505
  speaker: barron
  en: Then, with typical verbal dexterity and spiritual enthusiasm, Hopkins delineates the modes of growth in springtime.
  zh: 然后，霍普金斯以其典型的语言技巧和精神热情，描绘了春天生长的各种方式。
- start: 2707.019
  end: 2710.041
  speaker: barron
  en: She grows well in sod or sheath or shell.
  zh: 她在草皮、叶鞘或贝壳中生长良好。
- start: 2712.591
  end: 2718.034
  speaker: barron
  en: And he imagines Mary, the mother of God, surveying all of this life with limitless pleasure.
  zh: 他想象神的母亲马利亚以无限的喜悦观察着所有这些生命。
- start: 2719.595
  end: 2721.535
  speaker: barron
  en: He writes, All things rising, all things sizing, Mary sees sympathizing with that world of good, nature's motherhood.
  zh: 他写道：「万物升起，万物成长，马利亚看到并同情那美好的世界，大自然的母性。」
- start: 2720.035
  end: 2725.318
  speaker: barron
  en: Mary's utter willingness to magnify the Lord made of her a matrix of life.
  zh: 马利亚完全愿意尊主为大，这使她成为了生命的源头。
- start: 2725.318
  end: 2746.242
  speaker: barron
  en: The spring itself, in all of its wild fecundity, is but a hint at the vitality that she unleashes.
  zh: 春天本身，以其所有狂野的丰饶，不过是她所释放的生命力的一个暗示。
