- start: 4.96
  end: 10.799
  speaker: barron
  en: St. John Henry Newman said, "Man is not sufficient for his own happiness.
  zh: 圣约翰·亨利·纽曼说：「人不能靠自己获得幸福。」
- start: 10.799
  end: 29.319
  speaker: barron
  en: He is not happy except the presence of God be with him." God desires to share His life with us, and so meets us within time during Holy Communion.
  zh: 「除非有神的同在，人不会真正幸福。」神渴望与我们分享祂的生命，因此在圣餐中与我们相遇。
- start: 29.319
  end: 38.8
  speaker: barron
  en: The Eucharist is our greatest treasure on Earth and our greatest hope for Heaven.
  zh: 圣餐是我们在世上最宝贵的财富，也是我们对天堂最大的盼望。
- start: 38.8
  end: 46.659
  speaker: barron
  en: Our lives are incomprehensible, except under the gentle call of God's love.
  zh: 如果没有神慈爱的呼唤，我们的人生就无法理解。
- start: 46.659
  end: 51.559
  speaker: barron
  en: He calls to us through the Eucharistic mystery.
  zh: 祂通过圣餐的奥秘呼唤我们。
- start: 51.559
  end: 60.899
  speaker: barron
  en: This is no merely earthly call, but a summoning to an encounter with the real and living presence of God.
  zh: 这不仅仅是世上的呼唤，而是邀请我们与真实活着的神相遇。
- start: 60.899
  end: 75.139
  speaker: barron
  en: Glimmering from the lamps of countless sanctuaries throughout two millennia, God's presence in Christ illumines our souls in unbroken light.
  zh: 两千年来，无数圣堂里的灯光闪烁着，基督里的神的同在以不息的光辉照亮我们的心灵。
- start: 75.139
  end: 79.839
  speaker: barron
  en: He is silent.
  zh: 祂沉默无声。
- start: 79.839
  end: 84.919
  speaker: barron
  en: He is hidden, but He is here.
  zh: 祂隐藏着，但祂就在这里。
- start: 90.679
  end: 98.359
  speaker: barron
  en: We now come to the third of the great sacraments of initiation or incorporation.
  zh: 现在我们来到入门圣事中的第三项，也就是归入基督的第三个重要圣事。
- start: 98.359
  end: 103.199
  speaker: barron
  en: We've done baptism, confirmation, and now the Holy Eucharist.
  zh: 我们已经讲过了洗礼、坚振礼，现在要讲圣餐。
- start: 103.199
  end: 111.939
  speaker: barron
  en: Not only is it the third of the great sacraments of initiation, it is the most important of the seven sacraments.
  zh: 它不仅是三大入门圣事中的第三项，更是七件圣事中最重要的一项。
- start: 111.939
  end: 113.179
  speaker: barron
  en: And why do I say that?
  zh: 为什么我要这样说呢？
- start: 113.179
  end: 115.419
  speaker: barron
  en: Thomas Aquinas put it this way.
  zh: 托马斯·阿奎那是这样说的。
- start: 115.419
  end: 122.319
  speaker: barron
  en: In the other six sacraments, the Virtus Christi is on display.
  zh: 在其他六件圣事里，彰显的是基督的能力。
- start: 122.319
  end: 123.999
  speaker: barron
  en: That means the power of Christ.
  zh: 也就是基督的能力。
- start: 123.999
  end: 138.719
  speaker: barron
  en: But in the Eucharist, Thomas says, "Ipse Christus is present, Christ Himself." Therefore, there's a qualitative difference between the Eucharist and the other sacraments.
  zh: 但在圣餐中，阿奎那说：「Ipse Christus，基督自己临在。」因此，圣餐与其他圣事有本质的不同。
- start: 138.719
  end: 142.859
  speaker: barron
  en: Christ Himself, Ipse Christus, is on display.
  zh: 是基督自己，Ipse Christus，亲自临在。
- start: 142.859
  end: 154.039
  speaker: barron
  en: It's precisely why Vatican II said in one of its most memorable lines that the Eucharist is the source and summit of the Christian life.
  zh: 正因如此，梵二大公会议有一句极为著名的话：「圣餐是基督徒生活的泉源与高峰。」
- start: 154.039
  end: 157.719
  speaker: barron
  en: It's where it comes from and where it's going.
  zh: 我们的生命从这里开始，也归向这里。
- start: 157.719
  end: 162.259
  speaker: barron
  en: The Eucharist, in a way, everybody, is everything.
  zh: 从某种意义上说，圣餐就是一切。
- start: 162.259
  end: 165.659
  speaker: barron
  en: Let me get at this first with a story.
  zh: 让我先用一个故事来说明。
- start: 165.659
  end: 172.219
  speaker: barron
  en: Um, some years ago with a friend of mine, I did a bike ride, bicycle ride from Paris to Rome.
  zh: 几年前，我和一位朋友骑自行车从巴黎到罗马。
- start: 172.219
  end: 178.599
  speaker: barron
  en: So I had studied in, in Paris, so I spoke French and I handled the, the French, uh, hotels on the way.
  zh: 我曾在巴黎学习，所以会说法语，沿途在法国的旅馆都是我负责。
- start: 178.599
  end: 182.099
  speaker: barron
  en: He had studied in Rome and he handled the, the Italian hotels.
  zh: 他曾在罗马学习，所以意大利的旅馆由他负责。
- start: 182.099
  end: 185.839
  speaker: barron
  en: And we rode our bikes from Paris to Rome.
  zh: 我们就这样骑车从巴黎一路到罗马。
- start: 185.839
  end: 187.519
  speaker: barron
  en: It was quite a trip.
  zh: 那真是一段特别的旅程。
- start: 187.519
  end: 189.039
  speaker: barron
  en: It took us about 16 days.
  zh: 我们花了大约16天。
- start: 189.039
  end: 191.059
  speaker: barron
  en: We did about 70 or 80 miles a day.
  zh: 每天大约骑行七八十英里。
- start: 191.059
  end: 193.179
  speaker: barron
  en: I was in better shape in those days.
  zh: 那时候我的身体状况还不错。
- start: 193.179
  end: 197.359
  speaker: barron
  en: Uh, well anyway, uh, we're going along and we're doing fine.
  zh: 总之，我们一路上都还挺顺利。
- start: 197.359
  end: 200.439
  speaker: barron
  en: And it was somewhere in the South of France, I remember.
  zh: 我记得是在法国南部的某个地方。
- start: 200.439
  end: 205.259
  speaker: barron
  en: We're maybe in mile 40 of that day, so I was, what, seven or eight days into the trip.
  zh: 那天大概骑到了第40英里，应该是旅程的第七八天。
- start: 205.259
  end: 213.019
  speaker: barron
  en: I had the experience I'd read about, but never actually had had, the experience of hitting the wall.
  zh: 我经历了以前只在书上看到过、但自己从未真正体会过的『撞墙』。
- start: 213.019
  end: 214.419
  speaker: barron
  en: You know what that is?
  zh: 你知道那是什么感觉吗？
- start: 214.419
  end: 218.619
  speaker: barron
  en: That means, it doesn't mean you're just getting tired or you're having a tough time.
  zh: 那不是说你只是累了或者觉得辛苦。
- start: 218.619
  end: 221.299
  speaker: barron
  en: It means you can't go on.
  zh: 而是你真的走不动了。
- start: 221.299
  end: 227.179
  speaker: barron
  en: It's your body just says, "I'm out." It's like a car get- is out of gas.
  zh: 你的身体就像在说：「我不行了。」就像汽车没油了一样。
- start: 227.179
  end: 228.339
  speaker: barron
  en: It just won't go.
  zh: 就是怎么也动不了了。
- start: 228.339
  end: 232.259
  speaker: barron
  en: And so I, I signaled to my friend that I, I just, I couldn't go on.
  zh: 于是我示意我的朋友，我真的骑不动了。
- start: 232.259
  end: 237.939
  speaker: barron
  en: Well, we always had in the- we had these little kind of bags on the side of the, of the, uh, bikes.
  zh: 我们自行车旁边都挂着小包。
- start: 237.939
  end: 241.239
  speaker: barron
  en: We always had these big French baguettes, right?
  zh: 包里总是放着大大的法棍面包，对吧？
- start: 241.239
  end: 242.839
  speaker: barron
  en: And of course, a lot of water.
  zh: 当然还有很多水。
- start: 242.839
  end: 244.319
  speaker: barron
  en: So I just sat down.
  zh: 于是我就坐了下来。
- start: 244.319
  end: 246.019
  speaker: barron
  en: I remember it vividly.
  zh: 我记得很清楚。
- start: 246.019
  end: 251.699
  speaker: barron
  en: I just, I just started eating this baguette just to get, you know, carbs or whatever into my system and then drinking water.
  zh: 我开始吃那根法棍面包，就是想让身体补充点碳水化合物，然后又喝了些水。
- start: 251.699
  end: 256.979
  speaker: barron
  en: And after maybe a half hour, okay, I was able to get back on the bike and go.
  zh: 大约半小时后，我终于能重新上车继续骑了。
- start: 256.979
  end: 258.919
  speaker: barron
  en: But I had hit the wall.
  zh: 但我真的撞墙了。
- start: 258.919
  end: 262.059
  speaker: barron
  en: I had just completely run out of energy.
  zh: 我完全耗尽了体力。
- start: 262.059
  end: 269.779
  speaker: barron
  en: The Eucharist should have that kind of relationship to our spiritual lives.
  zh: 圣餐对我们的灵性生活也应该有类似的作用。
- start: 269.779
  end: 275.779
  speaker: barron
  en: It's the food that we desperately need for the journey.
  zh: 它就是我们旅途中迫切需要的食粮。
- start: 275.779
  end: 278.599
  speaker: barron
  en: Here's a related story.
  zh: 这里还有一个相关的故事。
- start: 278.599
  end: 280.039
  speaker: barron
  en: Oh, maybe this was 10 years ago.
  zh: 大概是十年前的事。
- start: 280.039
  end: 285.659
  speaker: barron
  en: It was my first time, uh, concelebrating mass at St. Peter's Basilica, one of these...
  zh: 那是我第一次在圣彼得大殿共祭弥撒。
- start: 285.659
  end: 288.159
  speaker: barron
  en: and I, I think it was Easter mass, big outdoor mass, you know.
  zh: 我记得那是复活节弥撒，是一场大型的户外弥撒。
- start: 288.159
  end: 292.919
  speaker: barron
  en: And I was one of the priests and, and they asked me to help distribute communion.
  zh: 我是其中一位祭司，他们让我协助分送圣餐。
- start: 292.919
  end: 298.599
  speaker: barron
  en: So I just assumed that at the, at the propitious moment, someone would show me exactly where to go.
  zh: 我以为到时候会有人告诉我该去哪里。
- start: 298.599
  end: 300.339
  speaker: barron
  en: It would be all very well organized.
  zh: 我以为一切都会安排得井井有条。
- start: 300.339
  end: 301.879
  speaker: barron
  en: Well, it wasn't.
  zh: 结果并不是这样。
- start: 301.879
  end: 317.239
  speaker: barron
  en: They, they handed you the ciborium and, and I looked sort of plaintively at the emcee, and I said, like, "What do I do?" And he went, "Go out." "Go out." And so, so I did.
  zh: 他们把圣餐盒递给我，我无助地看着司仪，问：「我该怎么做？」他只说：「出去，出去。」于是我就出去了。
- start: 317.239
  end: 320.459
  speaker: barron
  en: I just, I just waded into this enormous crowd.
  zh: 我就这样走进了人山人海的群众中。
- start: 320.459
  end: 326.839
  speaker: barron
  en: And at one point I stopped and I began distributing, and I was saying it in Latin 'cause people were from all the different languages.
  zh: 我停下来开始分送圣餐，用拉丁文说，因为现场有来自不同语言的人。
- start: 326.839
  end: 332.959
  speaker: barron
  en: I was saying, "Corpus Christi, Corpus Christi." Well, it's, it's just emblazoned in my mind, all these people...
  zh: 我一直在说：「Corpus Christi，Corpus Christi。」这一幕深深印在我的脑海里，所有这些人……
- start: 332.959
  end: 336.619
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, part of it was just the natural Italian chaos, you know?
  zh: 当然，现场也有意大利人特有的混乱。
- start: 336.619
  end: 345.359
  speaker: barron
  en: But stretching out their hands to me and saying, per favore.
  zh: 但他们都向我伸出手，说：「per favore。」
- start: 345.359
  end: 347.879
  speaker: barron
  en: per favore." "Father, please.
  zh: 「per favore。」「神父，求您了。」
- start: 347.879
  end: 353.259
  speaker: barron
  en: Please." And, and I'm, "Corpus Christi, Corpus Christi, Corpus..." Until finally, I ran out.
  zh: 「求您了。」而我一直说：「Corpus Christi，Corpus Christi……」直到最后分完了所有圣餐。
- start: 353.259
  end: 359.719
  speaker: barron
  en: I distributed as many hundreds of hosts as I had, and then they began pressing on me like starving people.
  zh: 我把手里几百片圣餐都分完了，他们还像饥饿的人一样向我挤过来。
- start: 359.719
  end: 361.599
  speaker: barron
  en: '"per favore.'
  zh: 「per favore。」
- start: 361.599
  end: 362.859
  speaker: barron
  en: per favore." "Father.
  zh: 「per favore。」「神父。」
- start: 362.859
  end: 376.689
  speaker: barron
  en: Father." Well, again, some of it's just Italian, you know, melodrama, but-But I thought, you know, that's the right attitude toward the Eucharist.
  zh: 「神父。」当然有些是意大利人的戏剧性表达，但我觉得，这才是对待圣餐应有的态度。
- start: 376.689
  end: 379.029
  speaker: barron
  en: How many of us...
  zh: 我们当中有多少人……
- start: 379.029
  end: 380.569
  speaker: barron
  en: You know, I'm, I'm guilty as charged.
  zh: 说实话，我自己也常常如此。
- start: 380.569
  end: 384.989
  speaker: barron
  en: You know, receive the Eucharist, amen, mm, yep, you know.
  zh: 我们领受圣餐时，只是「阿们，嗯，好」，就这样过去了。
- start: 384.989
  end: 399.489
  speaker: barron
  en: Without Ipse Christus, Christ himself, without the source and summit of the Christian life, we hit the wall spiritually.
  zh: 如果没有Ipse Christus——基督自己，没有基督徒生活的泉源与高峰，我们的灵性也会撞墙。
- start: 399.489
  end: 407.47
  speaker: barron
  en: That's how desperately we need it and how desperately we should long for it.
  zh: 我们是多么迫切地需要它，也该多么渴望它。
- start: 407.47
  end: 411.049
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, how do we get at the importance of it?
  zh: 那么，我们该如何体会它的重要性呢？
- start: 411.049
  end: 416.849
  speaker: barron
  en: I, I'd recommend going back to the sixth chapter of John's Gospel.
  zh: 我建议大家回去读一读《约翰福音》第六章。
- start: 416.849
  end: 424.269
  speaker: barron
  en: Can I recommend to everybody, when you get home, take out your Bibles and read in a meditative way the sixth chapter of John?
  zh: 我建议大家回家后，拿出圣经，默想地读一读《约翰福音》第六章。
- start: 424.269
  end: 424.97
  speaker: barron
  en: It's not long.
  zh: 那一章并不长。
- start: 424.97
  end: 429.729
  speaker: barron
  en: What do we find now?
  zh: 我们会发现什么呢？
- start: 429.729
  end: 435.409
  speaker: barron
  en: The chapter opens with the, uh, John's account of the feeding of the, of the, uh, thousands, right?
  zh: 这一章开头就是约翰记载的五饼二鱼喂饱众人的神迹，对吧？
- start: 435.409
  end: 437.349
  speaker: barron
  en: The multiplication of the loaves and fishes.
  zh: 就是饼和鱼的增多。
- start: 437.349
  end: 438.889
  speaker: barron
  en: Again, beautiful.
  zh: 这真是美妙的神迹。
- start: 438.889
  end: 440.589
  speaker: barron
  en: Talk about .
  zh: 说到这里……
- start: 440.589
  end: 442.709
  speaker: barron
  en: Talk about starving people being fed.
  zh: 说到饥饿的人得饱足。
- start: 442.709
  end: 449.609
  speaker: barron
  en: But then it's followed by this famous discourse that Jesus gives in the Capernaum Synagogue.
  zh: 接下来就是耶稣在迦百农会堂发表的著名讲论。
- start: 449.609
  end: 465.689
  speaker: barron
  en: What, many years ago now when I was first filming the, uh, the Catholicism series that took me all over the world, that's one of the sites that stays most vividly in my mind, when we filmed in the ruins of the Capernaum Synagogue and talked about this very theme.
  zh: 许多年前，我第一次拍摄《公教》系列，走遍世界各地。我们曾在迦百农会堂遗址拍摄，谈的正是这个主题，那是我印象最深刻的地方之一。
- start: 465.689
  end: 476.849
  speaker: barron
  en: Well, you remember in that sermon, in that discourse, Jesus says, "I myself am the living bread come down from heaven.
  zh: 你还记得在那篇讲论中，耶稣说：「我就是从天上降下来的生命的粮。」
- start: 476.849
  end: 492.089
  speaker: barron
  en: Feed on my flesh and drink my blood." Well, the, the people listening to him, they didn't take this in like a, "What a wonderful sermon." They balked at it, and understandably.
  zh: 「吃我的肉，喝我的血。」听众并没有觉得这是一篇「多美好的讲道」，他们感到难以接受，这也可以理解。
- start: 492.089
  end: 499.409
  speaker: barron
  en: You know, for Jews of Jesus' time, it was expressly forbidden in the Old Testament to eat animal's flesh with blood.
  zh: 你知道，在耶稣时代的犹太人看来，旧约明文禁止吃带血的肉。
- start: 499.409
  end: 503.749
  speaker: barron
  en: Uh, Leviticus and many other places expressly forbid it.
  zh: 《利未记》和许多地方都明确禁止。
- start: 503.749
  end: 513.869
  speaker: barron
  en: And so for a, uh, a man, a human being to be talking about eating his own flesh and drinking his blood, it was not only disgusting, it was theologically objectionable.
  zh: 所以，一个人说要吃自己的肉、喝自己的血，不仅让人觉得恶心，更在神学上令人难以接受。
- start: 513.869
  end: 524.369
  speaker: barron
  en: And so, of course, the people say, wa- "What, what is this?" What did Jesus do now in the face of that objection?
  zh: 所以，众人当然会说：「这是什么？」那么，面对这样的反对，耶稣做了什么呢？
- start: 524.369
  end: 528.829
  speaker: barron
  en: You'd think, "Oh, oh, let me explain to you what I mean, everybody.
  zh: 你可能会以为耶稣会说：「哦，让我解释一下我的意思，大家。」
- start: 528.829
  end: 530.229
  speaker: barron
  en: I mean, it's a metaphor, you know.
  zh: 「我的意思是，这只是个比喻。」
- start: 530.229
  end: 531.309
  speaker: barron
  en: It's a, it's a symbol.
  zh: 「这只是一个象征。」
- start: 531.309
  end: 536.409
  speaker: barron
  en: Uh, I don't mean this literally, it's a symbol." He doesn't do that.
  zh: 「我不是字面上的意思，只是象征。」但耶稣并没有这样做。
- start: 536.409
  end: 537.729
  speaker: barron
  en: He does just the opposite.
  zh: 祂反而做了完全相反的事。
- start: 537.729
  end: 544.589
  speaker: barron
  en: '"Amen, amen, I say to you," and that''s his little code for take this very seriously.'
  zh: 祂说：「我实实在在地告诉你们。」这句话就是要大家非常认真地听。
- start: 544.589
  end: 555.169
  speaker: barron
  en: '"Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you..." And the Greek here is very interesting because the word for eat, the way human beings eat, in Greek it''s .'
  zh: 「我实实在在地告诉你们，除非你们……」这里希腊文很有意思，通常人吃东西的动词是……
- start: 555.169
  end: 557.769
  speaker: barron
  en: But Jesus doesn't use that verb.
  zh: 但耶稣没有用那个词。
- start: 557.769
  end: 560.329
  speaker: barron
  en: He uses the verb .
  zh: 祂用了另一个动词……
- start: 560.329
  end: 561.989
  speaker: barron
  en: You know what means?
  zh: 你知道这个词是什么意思吗？
- start: 561.989
  end: 567.769
  speaker: barron
  en: It means , like to gnaw, like the way an animal eats.
  zh: 它的意思是「啃咬」，就像动物吃东西那样。
- start: 567.769
  end: 595.429
  speaker: barron
  en: So they're objecting, "How could he tell us this crazy stuff?" "Unless you gnaw on the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you." And then he says to them, "My flesh is true food and my blood is true drink." In other words, when he had the opportunity to render his language more metaphorical, he turned up the heat on the language, making it more vividly realistic.
  zh: 所以他们反对说：「他怎么能说出这样疯狂的话？」但耶稣说：「除非你们啃咬人子的肉、喝祂的血，就没有生命在你们里面。」祂又说：「我的肉真是可吃的，我的血真是可喝的。」换句话说，耶稣本可以把话说得更像比喻，但祂反而把话说得更加具体、更加真实。
- start: 595.429
  end: 598.429
  speaker: barron
  en: Well, how'd that go over?
  zh: 那么，大家的反应如何呢？
- start: 598.429
  end: 601.429
  speaker: barron
  en: Take a look at John 6.
  zh: 请看《约翰福音》第六章。
- start: 601.429
  end: 612.949
  speaker: barron
  en: In fact, the verse that's most interesting, and this is by historical accident 'cause they didn't have the chapter, verse symbols in Jesus' time, but it happens to be John 6:66.
  zh: 事实上，有一节经文非常有意思，虽然耶稣时代还没有章节编号，但刚好是约6:66。
- start: 612.949
  end: 616.309
  speaker: barron
  en: J- John 6:66.
  zh: 约6:66。
- start: 616.309
  end: 619.169
  speaker: barron
  en: The reaction was, they all left.
  zh: 众人的反应是，他们都离开了。
- start: 619.169
  end: 624.109
  speaker: barron
  en: Except his little band, led by Peter.
  zh: 只剩下彼得带领的那一小群门徒。
- start: 624.109
  end: 639.289
  speaker: barron
  en: And this is John's version, by the way, of Peter's confession, is at this moment when Jesus says, "Well, are you gonna leave me, too?" And can I suggest to you, brothers and sisters, that's one of the most poignant moments in the whole gospel.
  zh: 顺便说一句，这也是约翰记载彼得认信的时刻。耶稣问：「你们也要离开我吗？」弟兄姊妹们，这可以说是整本福音书中最令人动容的时刻之一。
- start: 639.289
  end: 657.069
  speaker: barron
  en: The Lord himself looking at his, his followers have, have now left him in droves, and he turns to his little intimate band, "Are you gonna leave me, too?" And it's Peter, of course, who speaks so beautifully for all of them, "Lord, to whom should we go?
  zh: 主亲自看着那些离开祂的门徒，转向身边亲近的那一小群人，说：「你们也要离开我吗？」当然，是彼得代表大家说出那句美丽的话：「主啊，我们还归从谁呢？」
- start: 657.069
  end: 674.629
  speaker: barron
  en: You have the words of everlasting life." The Eucharist, everybody, has always been a divisive and standing and falling point within Christianity from that moment on.
  zh: 「你有永生之道。」从那一刻起，圣餐一直是基督信仰中分歧和立足的关键点。
- start: 674.629
  end: 676.549
  speaker: barron
  en: Hard teaching?
  zh: 这是难懂的教导吗？
- start: 676.549
  end: 679.209
  speaker: barron
  en: Yeah, always has been.
  zh: 是的，一直如此。
- start: 679.209
  end: 681.069
  speaker: barron
  en: Divisive?
  zh: 有分歧吗？
- start: 681.069
  end: 684.209
  speaker: barron
  en: Yeah, it has been from that day to today.
  zh: 是的，从那天直到今天都是如此。
- start: 684.209
  end: 689.829
  speaker: barron
  en: But we stand with Peter, "Lord, to whom should we go?
  zh: 但我们要和彼得一起说：「主啊，我们还归从谁呢？」
- start: 689.829
  end: 692.889
  speaker: barron
  en: You have the words of everlasting life.
  zh: 「你有永生之道。」
- start: 692.889
  end: 703.189
  speaker: barron
  en: You've spoken to us of something that ought to be the source and summit of our whole life." Now, watch this, everybody.
  zh: 你向我们讲述的，正是我们生命的泉源与高峰。大家请注意接下来这一点。
- start: 703.189
  end: 713.949
  speaker: barron
  en: As this great teaching comes roaring up out of John 6 into the Christian tradition, listen to how it's repeated and reaffirmed.
  zh: 当这项伟大的教导从约翰福音第六章进入基督信仰传统时，请听听它是如何被不断重复和确认的。
- start: 713.949
  end: 716.409
  speaker: barron
  en: First of all, a couple things from the church fathers.
  zh: 首先，来看看几位教父的见证。
- start: 716.409
  end: 720.029
  speaker: barron
  en: Here's from Ignatius of Antioch, so very early figure.
  zh: 这是安提阿的依纳爵，非常早期的一位教父。
- start: 720.029
  end: 737.123
  speaker: barron
  en: He says, "The unbelievers abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ."Here's Justin Martyr, second century, very early figure.
  zh: 他说：「不信的人不参加圣餐和祷告，因为他们不承认圣餐就是我们主耶稣基督的肉身。」再看第二世纪的殉道者游斯丁。
- start: 737.123
  end: 759.003
  speaker: barron
  en: '"Not as common bread nor common drink do we receive these; but since Jesus Christ our Savior was made incarnate by the Word of God, the food which has been made into the Eucharist by the Eucharistic prayer is both the flesh and the blood of the incarnate Jesus." Wow.'
  zh: 「我们所领受的，并不是普通的饼和酒；因为我们的救主耶稣基督借着神的道成为肉身，这些经过圣餐祷告所成的食物，就是道成肉身的耶稣的肉和血。」多么震撼！
- start: 759.003
  end: 764.003
  speaker: barron
  en: That's an ancient text, but it's exactly what we do today at every mass, right?
  zh: 这是古老的文献，但正是我们今天每次弥撒所做的事，对吧？
- start: 764.003
  end: 771.723
  speaker: barron
  en: By the words of the Eucharistic prayer, the bread and wine are transformed into the flesh and blood of Christ.
  zh: 借着圣餐祷告的话语，饼和酒变成了基督的身体和宝血。
- start: 771.723
  end: 772.904
  speaker: barron
  en: That's Justin Martyr.
  zh: 这就是殉道者游斯丁的见证。
- start: 772.904
  end: 778.043
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, move up several centuries into the Middle Ages.
  zh: 现在我们跳到几个世纪后的中世纪。
- start: 778.043
  end: 784.783
  speaker: barron
  en: A great debate broke out in the 11th century about this issue of the real presence.
  zh: 十一世纪时，关于基督真实临在的问题爆发了激烈的争论。
- start: 784.783
  end: 790.043
  speaker: barron
  en: There was a very brilliant monk from Tours in France called Berengarius.
  zh: 当时法国图尔有一位非常聪明的修士，名叫贝伦加留。
- start: 790.043
  end: 808.683
  speaker: barron
  en: Berengarius, brilliant man, brilliant logician, presented the view that, "Look, we're not talking about the, the literal or real presence of Jesus, but the bread and wine become very powerful, evocative symbols of Jesus' presence." Now, easier to understand?
  zh: 贝伦加留是一位出色的逻辑学家，他主张：「我们所说的不是耶稣真实或字面上的临在，而是饼和酒成为耶稣临在的有力象征。」这样说是不是更容易理解？
- start: 808.683
  end: 810.443
  speaker: barron
  en: Yeah, no question about it.
  zh: 是的，确实更容易理解。
- start: 810.443
  end: 815.283
  speaker: barron
  en: But the church said no to Berengarius.
  zh: 但教会拒绝了贝伦加留的观点。
- start: 815.283
  end: 822.083
  speaker: barron
  en: Fast-forward now to the 13th century, the Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.
  zh: 再往前到十三世纪，1215年第四次拉特朗大公会议。
- start: 822.083
  end: 828.723
  speaker: barron
  en: The church uses for the first time in its official teaching, it's a word that we should savor, we Catholics.
  zh: 教会第一次在正式教义中使用了一个词，这是我们公教徒应该珍惜的词。
- start: 828.723
  end: 832.943
  speaker: barron
  en: The word is transubstantiation.
  zh: 这个词就是「本质变体」。
- start: 832.943
  end: 848.743
  speaker: barron
  en: What happens, the church taught at the, uh, at the consecration is that the substances of bread and wine change into the substances of the body and blood of Christ, even as the accidents remain.
  zh: 教会教导说，在祝圣时，饼和酒的本质变成了基督的身体和宝血的本质，虽然偶性没有改变。
- start: 848.743
  end: 860.403
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, that's just fancy philosophical talk for the deepest reality changes, even as the appearances remain unchanged.
  zh: 这其实就是哲学上的说法，意思是最深层的实质发生了改变，尽管外观没有变化。
- start: 860.403
  end: 865.603
  speaker: barron
  en: So there's the teaching of the church in 1215, Fourth Lateran Council.
  zh: 这就是1215年第四次拉特朗大公会议的教导。
- start: 865.603
  end: 879.883
  speaker: barron
  en: If you want the real details, I can't begin to go into it today, read in the third section of Saint Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologiae, and you'll find a very detailed accounting of what transubstantiation means.
  zh: 如果你想了解详细内容，我今天无法一一展开，可以去读圣托马斯·阿奎那《神学大全》第三部分，里面有对本质变体极为详细的解释。
- start: 879.883
  end: 884.563
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, go forward a few more centuries, the time of the Reformation.
  zh: 再往后几百年，就是宗教改革时期。
- start: 884.563
  end: 889.023
  speaker: barron
  en: Martin Luther calls into question transubstantiation.
  zh: 马丁·路德对本质变体提出了质疑。
- start: 889.023
  end: 906.423
  speaker: barron
  en: Ulrich Zwingli, another of the great Reformers, goes right back to Berengarius, and he says, "We're dealing with evocative symbols of Jesus' presence." John Calvin gives a somewhat more nuanced but still largely symbolic reading of the Eucharist.
  zh: 另一位重要的改革者慈运理回到贝伦加留的观点，说：「我们面对的是耶稣临在的象征。」加尔文的解释稍微复杂一些，但总体上仍然是象征性的理解。
- start: 906.423
  end: 909.043
  speaker: barron
  en: What did the church say?
  zh: 那么，教会怎么回应呢？
- start: 909.043
  end: 913.223
  speaker: barron
  en: At the Council of Trent, the church said no.
  zh: 在特利腾大公会议上，教会再次说「不」。
- start: 913.223
  end: 919.623
  speaker: barron
  en: And it reaffirmed the doctrine of transubstantiation.
  zh: 并重申了本质变体的教义。
- start: 919.623
  end: 924.483
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, fast-forward to the 20th century.
  zh: 再快进到二十世纪。
- start: 924.483
  end: 952.903
  speaker: barron
  en: There were theologians, I read a lot of them when I was coming of age as a, as a seminarian, who said, "You know, what we're dealing with here is transignification or transfinalization." Fancy way of saying, "Look, the significance of the bread and wine change in the course of a mass, so ordinary bread and wine now take on a deeper significance during the mass." Or transfinalization, their purpose changes.
  zh: 有些神学家——我在修院时读过不少——他们说：「其实我们说的是意义变体或目的变体。」意思是说，弥撒中饼和酒的意义发生了变化，普通的饼和酒在弥撒中获得了更深的意义，或者说它们的目的发生了变化。
- start: 952.903
  end: 956.203
  speaker: barron
  en: What did the church say?
  zh: 那么，教会怎么回应？
- start: 956.203
  end: 957.723
  speaker: barron
  en: Uh-uh.
  zh: 教会说：「不行。」
- start: 957.723
  end: 971.743
  speaker: barron
  en: Saint Pope Paul VI writes the great encyclical on the Eucharist in which he says, "Okay, you can talk about the change of meaning or purpose, but that's because there's been a deeper change to level of being.
  zh: 圣教宗保禄六世写过一篇关于圣餐的重要通谕，他说：「你可以谈意义或目的的变化，但那是因为在本体层面发生了更深的改变。」
- start: 971.743
  end: 980.063
  speaker: barron
  en: Because the substance is changed, these other things have changed too." Okay, but you've got to reaffirm transubstantiation.
  zh: 「因为本质改变了，其他一切也随之改变。」但你必须重申本质变体。
- start: 980.063
  end: 981.803
  speaker: barron
  en: Here's my point, everybody.
  zh: 我的重点在这里，大家。
- start: 981.803
  end: 995.223
  speaker: barron
  en: From John VI to Paul VI, the church has been stubbornly reaffirming this strange and disturbing and unnerving and wonderful teaching of the real presence.
  zh: 从约翰福音第六章到保禄六世，教会一直坚定不移地重申这个奇特、令人不安、却又奇妙的真实临在教义。
- start: 995.223
  end: 996.443
  speaker: barron
  en: Okay.
  zh: 好的。
- start: 996.443
  end: 1005.503
  speaker: barron
  en: W- with that little theological survey in mind, can I close with my favorite 20th century Eucharistic theologian, the great writer, Flannery O'Connor?
  zh: 在做了这个简短的神学回顾之后，我想以我最喜欢的二十世纪圣餐神学家——伟大的作家弗兰纳里·奥康纳的故事来结尾。
- start: 1005.503
  end: 1007.543
  speaker: barron
  en: You know the story about her?
  zh: 你们知道她的故事吗？
- start: 1007.543
  end: 1013.223
  speaker: barron
  en: Flannery O'Connor, um, who emerges as, as I think the greatest Catholic fiction writer of the 20th century.
  zh: 弗兰纳里·奥康纳，我认为她是二十世纪最伟大的公教小说家。
- start: 1013.223
  end: 1025.063
  speaker: barron
  en: But when she's a very young woman just beginning her career, she's invited to dinner in New York with a woman named Mary McCarthy who was an established, uh, writer, and some other folks.
  zh: 但在她刚开始写作生涯、还很年轻时，曾在纽约受邀与著名作家玛丽·麦卡锡等人共进晚餐。
- start: 1025.063
  end: 1028.503
  speaker: barron
  en: And O'Connor was so shy that she barely said a word.
  zh: 奥康纳非常害羞，几乎一句话都没说。
- start: 1028.503
  end: 1054.523
  speaker: barron
  en: Well, finally, Mary McCarthy kind of feeling bad for her and, and knowing that she was a Catholic, McCarthy was an ex-Catholic, she s- tried to draw her out and she said, "Oh, you know, uh, I think the Eucharist is a very powerful symbol." To which Flannery O'Connor said, "Well, if it's only a symbol, I say to hell with it." That's my favorite statement- ...
  zh: 最后，麦卡锡有些同情她，也知道她是公教徒（麦卡锡自己曾是公教徒），于是试着引导她说话，说：「哦，我觉得圣餐是一个很有力量的象征。」奥康纳回答说：「如果它只是象征，那我才不稀罕呢！」这是我最喜欢的关于圣餐真实临在的表述……
- start: 1054.523
  end: 1056.843
  speaker: barron
  en: of the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist.
  zh: ——关于耶稣在圣餐中真实临在的见证。
- start: 1056.843
  end: 1058.343
  speaker: barron
  en: Okay.
  zh: 好的。
- start: 1058.343
  end: 1064.643
  speaker: barron
  en: Having seen how vigorously the church defends this teaching, can we make some sense of it?
  zh: 既然看到教会如此坚定地捍卫这个教义，我们能否理解其中的道理？
- start: 1064.643
  end: 1066.823
  speaker: barron
  en: Here's how, I suggest.
  zh: 我建议可以这样来看。
- start: 1066.823
  end: 1071.663
  speaker: barron
  en: By looking at the power of words.
  zh: 从语言的力量来看。
- start: 1071.663
  end: 1076.723
  speaker: barron
  en: So first of all, everybody, words can be descriptive, right?
  zh: 首先，大家都知道，语言可以用来描述，对吧？
- start: 1076.723
  end: 1082.963
  speaker: barron
  en: So if someone, let's say, later today asks me, "Hey, how was the event down at Blessed Sacrament?" "Oh, it was great, you know, we had 1,500 people came.
  zh: 比如说，今天有人问我：「你在圣餐堂的活动怎么样？」我会说：「很棒啊，有1500人参加。」
- start: 1082.963
  end: 1089.403
  speaker: barron
  en: I gave six talks and church looked great and..." But what am I- I'm doing there is I'm describing reality, right?
  zh: 「我讲了六场，教堂看起来很漂亮……」我在做什么？我只是在描述现实，对吧？
- start: 1089.403
  end: 1090.683
  speaker: barron
  en: I'm not changing reality.
  zh: 我并没有改变现实。
- start: 1090.683
  end: 1091.683
  speaker: barron
  en: I'm just describing it.
  zh: 我只是描述它。
- start: 1091.683
  end: 1102.073
  speaker: barron
  en: But that's not all we do with language.Language, even our puny language, can change reality.
  zh: 但语言的作用不仅如此。即使我们有限的语言，也能改变现实。
- start: 1102.073
  end: 1106.294
  speaker: barron
  en: Suppose you're at Dodger Stadium, right?
  zh: 假设你在道奇球场。
- start: 1106.294
  end: 1109.733
  speaker: barron
  en: One of the Dodgers comes around second base and slides head first into third.
  zh: 有个道奇队员绕过二垒，头朝前滑进三垒。
- start: 1109.733
  end: 1118.574
  speaker: barron
  en: You're right there in the third base, you know, stands and you go, "Safe." Well, you're expressing your opinion, you know, your hope maybe.
  zh: 你就在三垒看台上，大喊：「安全！」其实你只是表达自己的看法，或者说希望。
- start: 1118.574
  end: 1130.074
  speaker: barron
  en: But the umpire of the National League, properly, uh, uniformed and delegated says, "Out." Well, like it or not, he's out, right?
  zh: 但如果是穿着制服、被授权的主裁判说：「出局！」那不管你愿不愿意，他就是出局了，对吧？
- start: 1130.074
  end: 1133.653
  speaker: barron
  en: That word has changed the game.
  zh: 这句话就改变了比赛的进程。
- start: 1133.653
  end: 1144.693
  speaker: barron
  en: If I walked up to you at a, uh, at a party and I said that, "You're under arrest." Well, you'd think properly I was telling a joke or losing my mind or something.
  zh: 如果我在聚会上走到你面前说：「你被逮捕了。」你肯定会觉得我在开玩笑，或者我疯了。
- start: 1144.693
  end: 1154.613
  speaker: barron
  en: But if a, you know, uniformed and deputized officer of the law says to you, "You're under arrest." Well, like it or not, you're under arrest.
  zh: 但如果是一位穿着制服、被授权的执法人员对你说：「你被逮捕了。」那不管你愿不愿意，你就是被逮捕了。
- start: 1154.613
  end: 1157.933
  speaker: barron
  en: His words have changed reality.
  zh: 他的话改变了现实。
- start: 1157.933
  end: 1159.713
  speaker: barron
  en: Oh, we all know this.
  zh: 我们都明白这一点。
- start: 1159.713
  end: 1170.153
  speaker: barron
  en: Words spoken when we were little kids, maybe that were harshly critical, change us, like forever.
  zh: 小时候听到的一些批评的话，可能会永远改变我们。
- start: 1170.153
  end: 1174.013
  speaker: barron
  en: They, they, they have adversely affected us forever.
  zh: 这些话对我们产生了长远的负面影响。
- start: 1174.013
  end: 1176.273
  speaker: barron
  en: Or flip it around.
  zh: 反过来说也是一样。
- start: 1176.273
  end: 1185.993
  speaker: barron
  en: Words of, I think of words of, of my dad or my, my mother when I was a little kid that, that so affirmed me or lifted me up that to this day I'm different because of them.
  zh: 我也会想到小时候父母对我说过鼓励和肯定的话，直到今天我都因此而不同。
- start: 1185.993
  end: 1187.093
  speaker: barron
  en: Okay.
  zh: 好的。
- start: 1187.093
  end: 1189.413
  speaker: barron
  en: Those are our words, right?
  zh: 这些都是我们人自己的话，对吧？
- start: 1189.413
  end: 1195.213
  speaker: barron
  en: Our, our little words can, to a degree, change reality.
  zh: 我们这些微小的话语，在某种程度上也能改变现实。
- start: 1195.213
  end: 1200.653
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, consider God's word.
  zh: 现在想想神的话语。
- start: 1200.653
  end: 1207.893
  speaker: barron
  en: God's word is not descriptive but rather creative.
  zh: 神的话语不是描述性的，而是创造性的。
- start: 1207.893
  end: 1216.833
  speaker: barron
  en: God in, in the, in the high poetic language of the Bible, God speaks the world into being, doesn't He?
  zh: 在圣经那高远的诗意语言中，神用祂的话语创造了世界，不是吗？
- start: 1216.833
  end: 1220.333
  speaker: barron
  en: '"Let there be light and there was light.'
  zh: 「要有光，就有了光。」
- start: 1220.333
  end: 1224.313
  speaker: barron
  en: Let the dry land come forth and it came forth.
  zh: 「地要露出来，地就出来了。」
- start: 1224.313
  end: 1235.853
  speaker: barron
  en: Let things teem upon the earth and so it happened." What's being expressed there in that gorgeous poetry is that God's speech, God's intelligent speech gives rise to things.
  zh: 「地上要有各种生物，于是就有了。」这些美丽的诗句表达的是：神的话语、神有智慧的话语使万物产生。
- start: 1235.853
  end: 1239.073
  speaker: barron
  en: It constitutes things, makes them what they are.
  zh: 祂的话语成就万物，使万物成为它们本来的样子。
- start: 1239.073
  end: 1255.553
  speaker: barron
  en: Remember the Prophet Isaiah, "As the, as the rain and snow come down from heaven and do not return without watering the earth, so my word does not go forth from me in vain." But rather accomplishes its purpose.
  zh: 还记得先知以赛亚说：「雨雪从天而降，并不返回，却滋润地土，使地上发芽结实；照样，我口所出的话也必如此，决不徒然返回，却要成就我所喜悦的，在我发他去成就的事上必然亨通。」
- start: 1255.553
  end: 1257.393
  speaker: barron
  en: See, that's God's word.
  zh: 你看，这就是神的话语。
- start: 1257.393
  end: 1260.293
  speaker: barron
  en: Not just describing, but making.
  zh: 不仅仅是描述，而是创造。
- start: 1260.293
  end: 1264.113
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, who's Jesus?
  zh: 那么，耶稣是谁？
- start: 1264.113
  end: 1268.653
  speaker: barron
  en: Oh, this intriguing first century Palestinian philosopher.
  zh: 难道祂只是一个有趣的一世纪巴勒斯坦哲学家吗？
- start: 1268.653
  end: 1271.113
  speaker: barron
  en: Well, if that's all he is, the heck with him.
  zh: 如果祂只是这样，那我们根本不必理会祂。
- start: 1271.113
  end: 1273.013
  speaker: barron
  en: There's a thousand philosophers.
  zh: 世上有成千上万的哲学家。
- start: 1273.013
  end: 1274.333
  speaker: barron
  en: No, no, no.
  zh: 不，不，不是这样。
- start: 1274.333
  end: 1275.513
  speaker: barron
  en: What do we say now?
  zh: 我们现在怎么说？
- start: 1275.513
  end: 1278.833
  speaker: barron
  en: What do we hear in the prologue to John's Gospel?
  zh: 我们在《约翰福音》序言里听到什么？
- start: 1278.833
  end: 1283.373
  speaker: barron
  en: '"In the beginning was the word." Mind you, the word.'
  zh: 「太初有道。」注意，是「道」。
- start: 1283.373
  end: 1287.293
  speaker: barron
  en: '"And the Word was with God, and the Word was God.'
  zh: 「道与神同在，道就是神。」
- start: 1287.293
  end: 1294.073
  speaker: barron
  en: And all things came to be through that Word." There's God's word speaking the world into being.
  zh: 「万物是借着祂造的。」神的话语创造了世界。
- start: 1294.073
  end: 1303.073
  speaker: barron
  en: And that Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
  zh: 「道成了肉身，住在我们中间。」
- start: 1303.073
  end: 1305.413
  speaker: barron
  en: That's Jesus.
  zh: 这就是耶稣。
- start: 1305.413
  end: 1311.833
  speaker: barron
  en: Therefore, what Jesus says, is.
  zh: 因此，耶稣说的话就成就了。
- start: 1311.833
  end: 1324.873
  speaker: barron
  en: '"Little girl, get up." Remember how beautifully the gospel retains his Aramaic, "Little girl, get up." And the dead girl got up.'
  zh: 「小女孩，起来吧。」你还记得福音书里美丽地保留了祂的亚兰文吗？「小女孩，起来吧。」那死去的女孩就真的起来了。
- start: 1324.873
  end: 1325.433
  speaker: barron
  en: Why?
  zh: 为什么？
- start: 1325.433
  end: 1326.953
  speaker: barron
  en: Because Jesus said so.
  zh: 因为耶稣这样说了。
- start: 1326.953
  end: 1333.973
  speaker: barron
  en: '"Lazarus, come out." And the dead man, dead in his, in his grave for four days comes out.'
  zh: 「拉撒路，出来！」那死了四天的人就从坟墓里出来了。
- start: 1333.973
  end: 1334.413
  speaker: barron
  en: Why?
  zh: 为什么？
- start: 1334.413
  end: 1335.993
  speaker: barron
  en: Because Jesus said it.
  zh: 因为耶稣说了。
- start: 1335.993
  end: 1345.293
  speaker: barron
  en: '"My son, your sins are forgiven." And by God, I mean that literally, by God they''re forgiven, because Jesus said it.'
  zh: 「孩子，你的罪赦了。」我说的是真的，因着耶稣的话，他的罪真的被赦免了。
- start: 1345.293
  end: 1353.013
  speaker: barron
  en: To the storm, "Be still." And it was still, because Jesus said it.
  zh: 对风暴说：「住了吧！」风暴就平静了，因为耶稣说了。
- start: 1353.013
  end: 1360.613
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, the night before he died, Jesus took bread from the Passover table.
  zh: 在祂受难前的那一夜，耶稣从逾越节的桌上拿起饼来。
- start: 1360.613
  end: 1364.733
  speaker: barron
  en: '"Take this, all of you, and eat of it.'
  zh: 「你们都拿去吃吧。」
- start: 1364.733
  end: 1373.153
  speaker: barron
  en: For this is my body, given for you." And then the cup of Passover wine.
  zh: 「这是我的身体，为你们舍的。」然后又拿起逾越节的杯。
- start: 1373.153
  end: 1391.613
  speaker: barron
  en: '"This is the chalice of my blood, the blood of the new and eternal covenant." What Jesus says, is, because of who Jesus is, the word made flesh.'
  zh: 「这是我的血，为你们和众人流出，立新而永约的血。」耶稣说的话就成就了，因为祂就是道成肉身。
- start: 1391.613
  end: 1402.433
  speaker: barron
  en: If our puny words can change reality, Jesus' word can change reality at the very deepest level.
  zh: 如果我们微小的话语都能改变现实，耶稣的话语就能在最深层次改变现实。
- start: 1402.433
  end: 1412.773
  speaker: barron
  en: And so we speak indeed of the transubstantiation of the bread and the wine, the real presence of Jesus.
  zh: 因此我们才说饼和酒本质变体，耶稣真实临在。
- start: 1412.773
  end: 1416.713
  speaker: barron
  en: That's why Ipse Christus is present there.
  zh: 这就是为什么Ipse Christus——基督自己——在那里临在。
- start: 1416.713
  end: 1421.553
  speaker: barron
  en: Now, I'll make one more connection as I close.
  zh: 最后，我还想再做一个联系。
- start: 1421.553
  end: 1428.713
  speaker: barron
  en: What does God want from the very beginning in the biblical vision?
  zh: 在圣经的异象中，神从一开始就想要什么？
- start: 1428.713
  end: 1432.593
  speaker: barron
  en: God wanted to feed his holy people.
  zh: 神想要喂养祂的圣民。
- start: 1432.593
  end: 1437.353
  speaker: barron
  en: Think of the, the, um, again, the lovely poetry in the beginning of Genesis.
  zh: 想想《创世记》开头那美丽的诗句。
- start: 1437.353
  end: 1442.313
  speaker: barron
  en: We put such a stress on the one tree God s- told them not to eat from.
  zh: 我们总是强调神吩咐他们不可吃的那棵树。
- start: 1442.313
  end: 1451.813
  speaker: barron
  en: But remember he said, "Eat from all the trees of the garden." He gave 'em this wildly liberal permission to eat of all the trees, save one.
  zh: 但别忘了，神说：「园中各样树上的果子，你们可以随意吃。」祂给了他们极大的自由，除了那一棵树。
- start: 1451.813
  end: 1457.593
  speaker: barron
  en: God wants to feed His people with His life.
  zh: 神想用祂的生命喂养祂的子民。
- start: 1457.593
  end: 1477.103
  speaker: barron
  en: When He forms His holy people, Israel, He does so through a Passover meal.The Prophet Isaiah envisions this holy mountain on which there are pure choice wines and juicy meats, where God spreads out a banquet for His people.
  zh: 当神建立祂的圣民以色列时，是通过逾越节的筵席。先知以赛亚描绘了那座圣山，上面有上好的酒和肥美的肉，神为祂的子民摆设筵席。
- start: 1477.103
  end: 1484.744
  speaker: barron
  en: We hear in fact that when the Messiah comes and this holy mountain is established, the very hills will run with wine.
  zh: 我们还听说，当弥赛亚降临、圣山建立时，山冈都要流出美酒。
- start: 1484.744
  end: 1489.043
  speaker: barron
  en: That's God's desire to feed His people with His own life.
  zh: 这就是神要用祂自己的生命喂养祂子民的心意。
- start: 1489.043
  end: 1495.103
  speaker: barron
  en: And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
  zh: 「道成了肉身，住在我们中间。」
- start: 1495.103
  end: 1502.303
  speaker: barron
  en: Are we therefore surprised that Jesus spends a lot of time feeding His people?
  zh: 所以，耶稣花很多时间喂养祂的子民，我们还会感到惊讶吗？
- start: 1502.303
  end: 1511.264
  speaker: barron
  en: Think of Jesus' open table fellowship where saints and sinners are welcome, where the tax collectors and prostitutes are welcome.
  zh: 想想耶稣那敞开的筵席，圣人和罪人都被欢迎，税吏和娼妓也被接纳。
- start: 1511.264
  end: 1517.264
  speaker: barron
  en: Think of Jesus gathering the night before He died for this sacred meal.
  zh: 想想耶稣在受难前夜聚集门徒共进这神圣的晚餐。
- start: 1517.264
  end: 1532.543
  speaker: barron
  en: Jesus is God feeding His people with His very life, feeding them finally with His own body and His own blood.
  zh: 耶稣就是神用祂自己的生命喂养祂的子民，最终用祂自己的身体和宝血喂养他们。
- start: 1532.543
  end: 1535.284
  speaker: barron
  en: Why?
  zh: 为什么？
- start: 1535.284
  end: 1538.903
  speaker: barron
  en: That we might become Christified.
  zh: 为了让我们成为基督化的人。
- start: 1538.903
  end: 1545.324
  speaker: barron
  en: It was a German philosopher, Feuerbach, who said, "You are what you eat." Right?
  zh: 德国哲学家费尔巴哈说过：「人吃什么，就成为什么。」对吧？
- start: 1545.324
  end: 1552.004
  speaker: barron
  en: Think of the full implications of that in regard to this great sign.
  zh: 想想这个伟大圣事的全部意义。
- start: 1552.004
  end: 1560.183
  speaker: barron
  en: Not just the Aeternus Christi, but Ipse Christus, Christ really, truly and substantially present.
  zh: 不仅是永恒的基督，更是Ipse Christus——基督自己真实、确实、本质地临在。
- start: 1560.183
  end: 1566.663
  speaker: barron
  en: And when we come forward now to consume that body and blood, then we become what we eat.
  zh: 当我们来到前面领受祂的身体和宝血时，我们就成了我们所吃的。
- start: 1566.663
  end: 1569.303
  speaker: barron
  en: We become Christified.
  zh: 我们成为基督化的人。
- start: 1569.303
  end: 1572.543
  speaker: barron
  en: We become prepared for life on high with God.
  zh: 我们就预备好与神一起过高天的生命。
- start: 1572.543
  end: 1579.343
  speaker: barron
  en: We have strength for the journey through this life and yes, into the next life.
  zh: 我们在今生的旅程中得着力量，也为来生做好准备。
- start: 1579.343
  end: 1591.083
  speaker: barron
  en: And so can you see everybody why the proper response when the body and blood of Jesus is on display is ?
  zh: 所以大家明白了吗？当耶稣的身体和宝血摆在我们面前时，最合适的回应是什么？
- start: 1591.083
  end: 1596.743
  speaker: barron
  en: That's the bread of life.
  zh: 那就是生命的粮。
- start: 1596.743
  end: 1599.303
  speaker: barron
  en: That's the cup of eternal salvation.
  zh: 那就是永远救恩的杯。
- start: 1599.303
  end: 1603.584
  speaker: barron
  en: That's the source and summit of the Christian life.
  zh: 那就是基督徒生活的泉源与高峰。
