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  en: The sacrament of confirmation is often underappreciated.
  zh: 坚振圣事常常被低估。
- start: 13.279
  end: 24.2
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: If confession is feared, confirmation is sometimes forgotten.
  zh: 如果告解圣事令人畏惧，坚振圣事有时则被遗忘。
- start: 24.2
  end: 36.259
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Yet, like all the sacraments- ...
  zh: 然而，就像所有圣事一样……
- start: 36.259
  end: 38.759
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: it too is an encounter with Christ.
  zh: 它也是与基督相遇。
- start: 38.759
  end: 58.859
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Through it, the Lord confirms us with the gift of his Holy Spirit, thus enabling us to do Christ's work.
  zh: 通过它，主以他的圣灵的恩赐坚固我们，使我们能够完成基督的工作。
- start: 58.859
  end: 84.199
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Throughout the ages, the ascended Jesus sends the spirit for the transformation of souls and the transfiguration of the world.
  zh: 在历史长河中，升天后的耶稣派遣圣灵来转化灵魂，改变世界。
- start: 84.199
  end: 101.919
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So we've spoken about sacraments in general, and we've looked at the first great sacrament of initiation or incorporation, namely baptism.
  zh: 我们已经谈过圣事的一般性，也看过第一个重要的入门圣事，即洗礼。
- start: 101.919
  end: 107.179
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So we come to the second sacrament of initiation, confirmation.
  zh: 现在我们来看第二个入门圣事，坚振。
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  end: 117.979
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Now, I suppose I'd be considered an expert in the theory and practice of confirmation, simply because I'm a bishop and bishops do a lot of confirmations.
  zh: 我想我可以被认为是坚振圣事理论和实践的专家，仅仅因为我是主教，而主教要主持很多坚振礼。
- start: 117.979
  end: 120.879
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So I've been a bishop for, um, four years.
  zh: 我做主教已经四年了。
- start: 120.879
  end: 124.359
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I confirmed, I was estimating about 10,000 people.
  zh: 我估计我为大约一万人施行了坚振。
- start: 124.359
  end: 127.039
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So it does add up after a while.
  zh: 所以时间长了就累积了不少。
- start: 127.039
  end: 131.019
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I've given probably 150 confirmation homilies.
  zh: 我大概讲过150次坚振讲道。
- start: 131.019
  end: 132.959
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Now, they're not all, you know, unique.
  zh: 当然，它们并不都是独特的。
- start: 132.959
  end: 137.539
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: There's some repetition, but I have spent a lot of time with this sacrament.
  zh: 有一些是重复的，但我确实在这个圣事上花了很多时间。
- start: 137.539
  end: 145.579
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Um, e- sort of notoriously, a confirmation is known as the sacrament that people have a hard time articulating.
  zh: 嗯，众所周知，坚振是一个人们难以清楚表达的圣事。
- start: 145.579
  end: 148.479
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You know, what- what is confirmation?
  zh: 你知道，坚振到底是什么？
- start: 148.479
  end: 155.979
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: If you ask Catholics about the other ones, they can probably say something, you know, relatively coherent, but when it comes to confirmation, what is that sacrament?
  zh: 如果你问公教徒关于其他圣事，他们可能会说出一些相对连贯的解释，但说到坚振，这个圣事是什么？
- start: 155.979
  end: 157.499
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: They- they can be a little tongue tied.
  zh: 他们可能会有点说不出话来。
- start: 157.499
  end: 169.419
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: More to it, and I've been in now two major archdioceses, Chicago and LA, and in both places we debate all the time, you know, what's the best, uh, time to, uh, give the sacrament of confirmation?
  zh: 更重要的是，我现在在芝加哥和洛杉矶这两个大总教区都工作过，在这两个地方我们一直在讨论，你知道，什么是施行坚振圣事最好的时间？
- start: 169.419
  end: 170.679
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: What's the- the right age?
  zh: 什么是合适的年龄？
- start: 170.679
  end: 171.579
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Et cetera, et cetera.
  zh: 等等，等等。
- start: 171.579
  end: 176.479
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Some of the theologians say you should confirm i- in infancy, right after baptism.
  zh: 一些神学家说你应该在婴儿时期，就在洗礼之后施行坚振。
- start: 176.479
  end: 180.779
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Others say, no, no at first communion when they're seven you should give confirmation.
  zh: 其他人说，不，应该在他们七岁领受初领圣餐时施行坚振。
- start: 180.779
  end: 182.479
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Others say, no when they're 12.
  zh: 还有人说，不，应该在他们12岁时。
- start: 182.479
  end: 184.359
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: We do it when they're about 15 out here.
  zh: 在这里我们是在他们大约15岁时施行。
- start: 184.359
  end: 186.339
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So we debate that all the time.
  zh: 所以我们一直在讨论这个问题。
- start: 186.339
  end: 189.119
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So what is confirmation?
  zh: 那么坚振是什么？
- start: 189.119
  end: 195.399
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Uh, many fall back on the kind of tried and true, uh, it's the Catholic bar mitzvah.
  zh: 很多人回到那个老生常谈，说它是公教版的成年礼。
- start: 195.399
  end: 199.819
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Uh, may I suggest that's certainly not true.
  zh: 让我说，这肯定不对。
- start: 199.819
  end: 201.499
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It's not the Catholic bar mitzvah.
  zh: 它不是公教版的成年礼。
- start: 201.499
  end: 214.259
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: The best way to get at it and to understand its practice, is to see it as the second of the great sacraments of initiation, and so it's deeply tied to baptism.
  zh: 理解它的最好方式是将它视为第二个重要的入门圣事，因此它与洗礼密切相关。
- start: 214.259
  end: 219.239
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Listen, by the way, to this from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, very clarifying.
  zh: 顺便听听公教会教理中的这段话，非常清晰。
- start: 219.239
  end: 247.039
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It says, "By the sacrament of confirmation, the connection of the baptized to the church is rendered more perfect, and they are enriched by a special force of the Holy Spirit and are thus obliged more strictly to spread and defend the faith by word and by action as true witnesses of Christ." That's a bit of a mouthful, but that's the whole theology of- of confirmation right there.
  zh: 它说：「通过坚振圣事，受洗者与教会的联系变得更加完美，他们因圣灵的特殊力量而更加丰富，因此他们更有责任以言语和行动作为基督的真实见证人来传播和捍卫信仰。」这话有点长，但这就是坚振的全部神学。
- start: 247.039
  end: 249.699
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Notice first the connection to baptism.
  zh: 首先注意它与洗礼的联系。
- start: 249.699
  end: 256.059
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So it begins with the baptized and it's meant to confirmare, right?
  zh: 所以它从受洗者开始，目的是要confirmare，对吧？
- start: 256.059
  end: 264.399
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: To strengthen, to confirm what has been given in baptism, which is that relationship to Christ and the Holy Spirit.
  zh: 要加强、确认在洗礼中所给予的，也就是与基督和圣灵的关系。
- start: 264.399
  end: 268.219
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Confirmation strengthens it, stirs it up.
  zh: 坚振加强它，激发它。
- start: 268.219
  end: 269.519
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: To what end?
  zh: 为了什么目的？
- start: 269.519
  end: 276.939
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: To spread and defend the faith by word and action as true witnesses of Christ.
  zh: 为了以言语和行动作为基督的真实见证人来传播和捍卫信仰。
- start: 276.939
  end: 281.899
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Strengthening people for this kind of mission.
  zh: 加强人们完成这种使命。
- start: 281.899
  end: 283.279
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's confirmation.
  zh: 这就是坚振。
- start: 283.279
  end: 288.839
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Here's a nice quote I found from Pope Pius the 12th, wonderful letter, Mystici Corporis.
  zh: 这里有一段我找到的庇护十二世的很好的引述，来自《奥体》通谕。
- start: 288.839
  end: 297.859
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's an encyclical he wrote back in the mid-20th century and one of the greatest, I think, of the last century, but listen to his characterization of confirmation.
  zh: 这是他在二十世纪中期写的一封通谕，我认为是上个世纪最伟大的通谕之一，听听他是如何描述坚振的。
- start: 297.859
  end: 321.059
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: '"By the chrism, the anointing of confirmation, new strength is infused into believers that they may uphold and defend vigorously the church, their mother, and the faith which they have received from her." The same idea of the stirring up and strengthening.'
  zh: 「通过坚振的傅油，新的力量注入信徒，使他们可以坚定地维护和捍卫教会这位母亲，以及从她那里接受的信仰。」同样的想法，就是激发和加强。
- start: 321.059
  end: 321.779
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: What?
  zh: 什么？
- start: 321.779
  end: 328.619
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: For the sake of mission, defending the church and also spreading the faith.
  zh: 为了使命，为了捍卫教会并传播信仰。
- start: 328.619
  end: 331.319
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You know, can I stay with that image maybe?
  zh: 你知道，我能继续用这个比喻吗？
- start: 331.319
  end: 334.919
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It's an older one, but- but one that I think it's still helpful.
  zh: 这是一个比较老的比喻，但我认为仍然有帮助。
- start: 334.919
  end: 338.799
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Confirmed people become soldiers of Christ.
  zh: 受坚振的人成为基督的战士。
- start: 338.799
  end: 340.839
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Now, don't literalize it.
  zh: 现在，不要字面理解。
- start: 340.839
  end: 343.599
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I'm not putting rifles in the hands of- of these teenagers.
  zh: 我不是要把步枪放在这些青少年手中。
- start: 343.599
  end: 352.659
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Soldiers of Christ, and it's being described here, who are defending the faith, but more than that, they're going on the march.
  zh: 基督的战士，这里描述的是，他们捍卫信仰，但不仅如此，他们还要前进。
- start: 352.659
  end: 356.279
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: They're going on the march to spread the faith.
  zh: 他们要前进传播信仰。
- start: 356.279
  end: 362.719
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You know, by the way, that line from the Lord Jesus himself that I- for many, many years I- I think I simply misunderstood.
  zh: 你知道，顺便说一下，主耶稣自己说的那句话，我多年来一直理解错了。
- start: 362.719
  end: 365.559
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: He said to Peter, you know, "Thou art Peter.
  zh: 他对彼得说：「你是彼得。
- start: 365.559
  end: 380.759
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Upon this rock I'll build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it." I- I don't know, somehow I always imagined that as well, I guess so hell's coming after us and we're gonna always be able to hold our ground, but think about it.
  zh: 我要把我的教会建造在这磐石上，阴间的门不能胜过它。」我不知道，不知何故我总是想象成，好吧，我猜是地狱在追击我们，而我们总能坚守阵地，但想想看。
- start: 380.759
  end: 386.459
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: In- in the ancient world if you were going after a city, you were trying to conquer a city, what would you do?
  zh: 在古代，如果你要攻打一座城市，你要征服一座城市，你会怎么做？
- start: 386.459
  end: 388.259
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You'd go after the gates, right?
  zh: 你会攻打城门，对吧？
- start: 388.259
  end: 390.019
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You try to break through the gates.
  zh: 你试图攻破城门。
- start: 390.019
  end: 391.859
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: There's the weakest part of the wall.
  zh: 那是城墙最薄弱的部分。
- start: 391.859
  end: 394.039
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's not a defensive image.
  zh: 这不是防守的形象。
- start: 394.039
  end: 395.479
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's an offensive image.
  zh: 这是进攻的形象。
- start: 395.479
  end: 398.759
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: The gates of hell will not prevail against you.
  zh: 阴间的门不能胜过你。
- start: 398.759
  end: 403.359
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: In other words, Peter, you're- you're the rock upon which I'm building my church.
  zh: 换句话说，彼得，你是我建造教会的磐石。
- start: 403.359
  end: 408.859
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: The church is meant to go on the march to conquer the world for Christ.
  zh: 教会要前进为基督征服世界。
- start: 408.859
  end: 413.419
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Again, don't- don't interpret that aggressively or in terms of violence.
  zh: 再说一次，不要把这理解为侵略性或暴力。
- start: 413.419
  end: 414.639
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Uh, it's- it's a metaphor.
  zh: 这是一个比喻。
- start: 414.639
  end: 420.739
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Confirmed people are very much under that aegis, it seems to me.
  zh: 在我看来，受坚振的人很大程度上都在这个庇护下。
- start: 420.739
  end: 428.619
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: They've been given the strength of the Holy Spirit, stirring up what was given already in baptism so they might defend and then spread the faith.
  zh: 他们已经得到了圣灵的力量，激发在洗礼中已经给予的，使他们能够捍卫并传播信仰。
- start: 428.619
  end: 433.479
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Here's something now from the scripture that I find illuminating.
  zh: 这里有一段来自圣经的内容，我觉得很有启发性。
- start: 433.479
  end: 441.899
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I think confirmation stands to baptism a bit as Pentecost stands to Easter.
  zh: 我认为坚振之于洗礼，就像五旬节之于复活节。
- start: 441.899
  end: 442.959
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: And here's what I mean.
  zh: 我的意思是这样的。
- start: 442.959
  end: 452.759
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Remember Easter Sunday night, Jesus appears to the, uh, disciples, the apostles, and he breathes on them.
  zh: 记得复活节晚上，耶稣向门徒，使徒们显现，向他们吹气。
- start: 452.759
  end: 458.279
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Beautiful in Greek, m- s- translated in Latin, breath.
  zh: 在希腊文中很美，翻译成拉丁文就是气息。
- start: 458.279
  end: 478.419
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: He breathes on them and says, "Receive the Holy Spirit." So the Holy Spirit's given in baptism, but see between Easter and Pentecost the apostles, though they had the spirit, they- they had not been fortified and strengthened for their great work.
  zh: 他向他们吹气说：「领受圣灵吧。」所以圣灵在洗礼中赐下，但看，在复活节和五旬节之间，使徒们虽然有圣灵，但他们还没有为他们的伟大工作得到加强和巩固。
- start: 478.419
  end: 487.969
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Then came Pentecost, the day of the Spirit and those beautiful symbols of wind and fire....
  zh: 然后来到五旬节，圣灵降临的日子，还有那些美丽的风和火的象征……
- start: 487.969
  end: 490.41
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: and from that moment, what happened to them?
  zh: 从那一刻起，他们发生了什么？
- start: 490.41
  end: 499.769
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: They became ardent defenders of the faith and spreading it all over the world.
  zh: 他们成为热心的信仰捍卫者，并将信仰传遍世界。
- start: 499.769
  end: 502.31
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: The gates of hell will not prevail against you.
  zh: 阴间的门不能胜过你。
- start: 502.31
  end: 502.729
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Good.
  zh: 很好。
- start: 502.729
  end: 505.409
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: And filled with that confidence, off they went.
  zh: 充满这种信心，他们就出发了。
- start: 505.409
  end: 518.549
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Confirmation is like the Pentecost moment, the inrushing of the Holy Spirit to fortify, strengthen people for this great work.
  zh: 坚振就像五旬节时刻，圣灵的涌入，为这项伟大的工作加强和巩固人们。
- start: 518.549
  end: 522.19
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: One more thing from the scripture, I think, is really illuminating.
  zh: 圣经中还有一件事，我认为真的很有启发性。
- start: 522.19
  end: 527.569
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Uh, if you look in the eighth chapter of the Acts of the Apostles, you'll find this scene.
  zh: 如果你看使徒行传第八章，你会发现这个场景。
- start: 527.569
  end: 532.769
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Saint Philip has gone to Samaria and he's converted several people.
  zh: 圣斐理伯去了撒玛利亚，他使几个人皈依了。
- start: 532.769
  end: 536.609
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: They've been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus, it says, right?
  zh: 经上说他们奉主耶稣的名受了洗，对吧？
- start: 536.609
  end: 537.81
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: They received baptism.
  zh: 他们接受了洗礼。
- start: 537.81
  end: 553.449
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: But the apostles in Jerusalem find out about this and they say, "Okay, they've been baptized in the name of the Lord, but, but they've not yet received the Holy Spirit." And so the apostles sent two apostolic heavyweights.
  zh: 但在耶路撒冷的使徒们得知这事，就说：「好，他们已经奉主的名受洗了，但是他们还没有领受圣灵。」于是使徒们派出两位使徒重量级人物。
- start: 553.449
  end: 562.309
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: They sent Peter and John to Samaria to call forth the Holy Spirit upon them, and so it happened.
  zh: 他们派彼得和约翰到撒玛利亚去，为他们求圣灵降临，事就这样成就了。
- start: 562.309
  end: 570.669
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: "Read Acts: 8 because it explains exactly what the church continues to do to the present day."
  zh: 读使徒行传第八章，因为它准确解释了教会直到今天仍在继续做的事。
- start: 570.669
  end: 589.249
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It- it takes people like me, uh, bishops, who are successors of the apostles and it sends them to the baptized to call forth the Holy Spirit to make them fiery defenders and spreaders of the faith.
  zh: 它派遣像我这样的人，主教们，作为使徒的继承人，派遣他们到受洗者那里，呼求圣灵降临，使他们成为热心的信仰捍卫者和传播者。
- start: 589.249
  end: 591.869
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's confirmation.
  zh: 这就是坚振。
- start: 591.869
  end: 593.209
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Okay.
  zh: 好的。
- start: 593.209
  end: 598.909
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Now, the Holy Spirit comes, and remember ex opere operando.
  zh: 现在，圣灵降临，记住ex opere operando。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: W- when I am there at a confirmation calling forth the Holy Spirit, I've got total confidence the Holy Spirit's going to come.
  zh: 当我在坚振礼上呼求圣灵时，我完全确信圣灵会来。
- start: 605.089
  end: 610.309
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It doesn't depend on my virtue, doesn't depend on whether the kids are totally open to it or not.
  zh: 这不取决于我的德行，也不取决于孩子们是否完全开放。
- start: 610.309
  end: 612.829
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It comes, ex opere operando.
  zh: 圣灵会来，ex opere operando。
- start: 612.829
  end: 613.809
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Good.
  zh: 好的。
- start: 613.809
  end: 620.129
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: And the Holy Spirit, everybody, never comes empty-handed.
  zh: 而且，各位，圣灵从不空手而来。
- start: 620.129
  end: 625.129
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: The Holy Spirit comes bearing gifts.
  zh: 圣灵带来恩赐。
- start: 625.129
  end: 633.369
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: And the church has this marvelous tradition, stretching back to the Prophet Isaiah, of naming the seven gifts of the Holy Spirit.
  zh: 教会有这个美妙的传统，可以追溯到以赛亚先知，列举圣灵的七个恩赐。
- start: 633.369
  end: 635.429
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I'll tell you a story.
  zh: 我来讲个故事。
- start: 635.429
  end: 645.729
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: When I first started doing confirmations, I was trying to really engage the kids, so I'd go out and I'd talk to the confirmandi, well I've discovered this now, confirmandi, the day of their confirmation...
  zh: 当我刚开始主持坚振礼时，我试图真正地让孩子们参与进来，所以我会出去和领坚振者，现在我发现，领坚振者，在他们坚振的那天交谈……
- start: 645.729
  end: 653.209
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I mean, and the bishop comes out, you know, "Hey, do you know any of the gifts of the Holy Spirit?" I mean, nothing, nothing.
  zh: 我的意思是，主教出来了，你知道，「嘿，你们知道圣灵的任何恩赐吗？」我是说，什么都没有，什么都没有。
- start: 653.209
  end: 660.829
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So early on, I- I'm at this parish and I- I went out and I said, "So can any of you name the gifts of the Holy Spirit?" Nothing.
  zh: 所以一开始，我在这个堂区，我出去说：「你们能说出圣灵的恩赐吗？」什么都没有。
- start: 660.829
  end: 662.709
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I said, "How about one?
  zh: 我说：「那一个呢？
- start: 662.709
  end: 665.229
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Can you know one gift of the Spirit?" Nothing.
  zh: 你们能知道一个圣灵的恩赐吗？」什么都没有。
- start: 665.229
  end: 666.069
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Okay.
  zh: 好的。
- start: 666.069
  end: 677.909
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So I finished the homily, I turn around, I don't know how I missed this, but I turn around and right, right behind the altar, in huge banners are the seven gifts of...
  zh: 所以我讲完道，我转身，我不知道我怎么会错过这个，但我转身，就在祭台后面，用巨大的横幅写着七个……
- start: 677.909
  end: 679.089
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: And I said, "Come on, you.
  zh: 我说：「来吧，你们。
- start: 679.089
  end: 680.609
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: They're right up there." You know?
  zh: 它们就在那上面。」你知道吗？
- start: 680.609
  end: 688.809
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Wisdom, knowledge, understanding, counsel, piety, fortitude, and fear of the Lord.
  zh: 智慧、知识、聪敏、超见、孝爱、刚毅和敬畏上主。
- start: 688.809
  end: 690.729
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Now, don't give me too much credit.
  zh: 现在，不要给我太多功劳。
- start: 690.729
  end: 692.989
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's 150, uh, confirmation homilies.
  zh: 那是150次坚振讲道。
- start: 692.989
  end: 695.609
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's how I've memorized the seven gifts of the Spirit.
  zh: 这就是我记住圣灵七恩的方式。
- start: 695.609
  end: 709.769
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: But, you know, each one, and I'll do it just real briefly, is worth thinking about a bit because it shows you how the confirmed are being equipped for their mission, and- and keep, if you want, that soldierly image in mind.
  zh: 但是，你知道，每一个恩赐，我会简短地说一下，都值得思考一下，因为它显示了领受坚振的人如何被装备去完成他们的使命，如果你愿意，可以继续保持那个战士的比喻。
- start: 709.769
  end: 712.169
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Wisdom.
  zh: 智慧。
- start: 712.169
  end: 714.009
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Wisdom.
  zh: 智慧。
- start: 714.009
  end: 718.169
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Thomas Aquinas said that wisdom is the view from the hilltop.
  zh: 托马斯·阿奎那说智慧是从山顶看到的景象。
- start: 718.169
  end: 724.789
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: What he meant was the view of life from the standpoint of the highest cause.
  zh: 他的意思是从最高原因的角度看生命。
- start: 724.789
  end: 726.069
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It's cool, isn't it?
  zh: 很酷，不是吗？
- start: 726.069
  end: 735.489
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: See, I- I can look at my life from all kinds of angles, you know, my- my family life, my professional life, um, my relationships, uh, my political life.
  zh: 看，我可以从各种角度看我的生活，你知道，我的家庭生活，我的职业生活，我的人际关系，我的政治生活。
- start: 735.489
  end: 745.549
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I- I can look at things from different angles, but if I look at it from the standpoint of God, what does God want?
  zh: 我可以从不同角度看事物，但如果我从神的角度来看，神想要什么？
- start: 745.549
  end: 748.309
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: What's God up to?
  zh: 神在做什么？
- start: 748.309
  end: 751.189
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: What's God trying to accomplish right now?
  zh: 神现在试图完成什么？
- start: 751.189
  end: 754.669
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Then I've got the attitude of wisdom.
  zh: 那么我就有了智慧的态度。
- start: 754.669
  end: 761.609
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You know, it- it's not true so much today in- in military, uh, circles, but look, go back a couple centuries.
  zh: 你知道，在今天的军事领域这可能不太适用，但是，回顾几个世纪前。
- start: 761.609
  end: 763.869
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: What did soldiers always seek?
  zh: 士兵们总是寻求什么？
- start: 763.869
  end: 767.929
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: What did generals always seek but the high ground, right?
  zh: 将军们总是寻求什么？不就是制高点吗？
- start: 767.929
  end: 770.709
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So they could survey the whole field.
  zh: 这样他们就能观察整个战场。
- start: 770.709
  end: 773.249
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Well, that's the, that's the attitude of wisdom.
  zh: 这就是智慧的态度。
- start: 773.249
  end: 775.109
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's the perspective of wisdom.
  zh: 这就是智慧的视角。
- start: 775.109
  end: 776.129
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I'm up on the height.
  zh: 我在高处。
- start: 776.129
  end: 780.009
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I see things from the standpoint of God, and therefore I know what to do.
  zh: 我从神的角度看事物，因此我知道该做什么。
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  end: 782.009
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I know how to interpret life.
  zh: 我知道如何解读生命。
- start: 782.009
  end: 783.309
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's wisdom.
  zh: 这就是智慧。
- start: 783.309
  end: 788.469
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: How about knowledge and understanding, the next two gifts of the Spirit?
  zh: 那知识和聪敏呢，圣灵的下两个恩赐？
- start: 788.469
  end: 794.069
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: They don't have to do with trigonometry and physics and chemistry and history and...
  zh: 它们与三角函数、物理、化学和历史无关……
- start: 794.069
  end: 807.769
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I tell the students, "Don't think, you know, you'll- you'll pass your test 'cause you've got these gifts." They have to do with our understanding of and our capacity to teach the great truths of the faith.
  zh: 我告诉学生们：「不要以为你们有了这些恩赐就能通过考试。」它们与我们理解和教导信仰的重要真理的能力有关。
- start: 807.769
  end: 814.409
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I've been decrying now for the past, I don't know, 20 years, the dumbing down of Catholicism.
  zh: 在过去二十年里，我一直在谴责公教信仰的简单化。
- start: 814.409
  end: 817.169
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It's been a pastoral disaster, mind you.
  zh: 这是一场牧灵的灾难，请注意。
- start: 817.169
  end: 819.689
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: We're a smart religion.
  zh: 我们是一个智慧的宗教。
- start: 819.689
  end: 821.449
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: We always have been.
  zh: 我们一直都是。
- start: 821.449
  end: 822.369
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: We're a smart religion.
  zh: 我们是一个智慧的宗教。
- start: 822.369
  end: 823.929
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: We- we honor the mind.
  zh: 我们尊重理智。
- start: 823.929
  end: 825.569
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: We honor theology.
  zh: 我们尊重神学。
- start: 825.569
  end: 831.609
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You want to be an effective defender and spreader of the faith?
  zh: 你想成为一个有效的信仰捍卫者和传播者吗？
- start: 831.609
  end: 842.209
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You need these gifts of knowledge and understanding to understand what the church teaches, to be able to speak it to a culture growing increasingly skeptical of it.
  zh: 你需要这些知识和聪敏的恩赐来理解教会的教导，能够向越来越怀疑的文化传达它。
- start: 842.209
  end: 846.009
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Stay with the soldier, uh, analogy.
  zh: 继续用战士的比喻。
- start: 846.009
  end: 848.389
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Soldiers need to be smart?
  zh: 士兵需要聪明吗？
- start: 848.389
  end: 849.649
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You bet.
  zh: 当然需要。
- start: 849.649
  end: 850.629
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You bet.
  zh: 当然需要。
- start: 850.629
  end: 854.329
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: And if they're not, that's pretty dangerous for them and for them, uh, the people around them.
  zh: 如果他们不聪明，对他们自己和周围的人都很危险。
- start: 854.329
  end: 859.949
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: How about the gift of fortitude?
  zh: 那刚毅的恩赐呢？
- start: 859.949
  end: 863.649
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Soldiers need fortitude, courage.
  zh: 士兵需要刚毅，需要勇气。
- start: 863.649
  end: 865.269
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You bet.
  zh: 当然需要。
- start: 865.269
  end: 871.149
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Easy today defending the faith and spreading it?
  zh: 今天捍卫和传播信仰容易吗？
- start: 871.149
  end: 876.909
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: If you have any doubts on that score, I recommend going on the internet any time of the day or night.
  zh: 如果你对此有任何怀疑，我建议你随时上网看看。
- start: 876.909
  end: 883.089
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I just finished something, I don't know if you heard about this, the, uh, it's called the Reddit AMA.
  zh: 我刚刚完成了一件事，不知道你们听说过没有，叫做Reddit AMA。
- start: 883.089
  end: 890.809
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So Reddit's this very popular website where, you know, it's one of the most popular, I think, in the whole world, and people exchange opinions on everything.
  zh: Reddit是一个非常受欢迎的网站，你知道，我认为是世界上最受欢迎的网站之一，人们在那里交流各种观点。
- start: 890.809
  end: 893.729
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Well, AMA means ask me anything.
  zh: AMA的意思是「问我任何问题」。
- start: 893.729
  end: 896.729
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So people come on and say, "Okay, you know, fair game.
  zh: 所以人们会来说：「好的，你知道，随便问。
- start: 896.729
  end: 904.989
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Ask me whatever you want." Well, uh, the positive thing is I was number two after Bill Gates and I was just ahead of Bernie Sanders.
  zh: 问我任何你想问的问题。」好吧，积极的一面是我排在比尔·盖茨之后，排在伯尼·桑德斯之前。
- start: 904.989
  end: 905.549
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: No kidding.
  zh: 不是开玩笑。
- start: 905.549
  end: 910.929
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: And believe me, not 'cause it, you know, all these kids know who I am.
  zh: 相信我，不是因为这些孩子都知道我是谁。
- start: 910.929
  end: 914.349
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: They don't, but religion, they're really interested in religion.
  zh: 他们不知道，但他们对宗教真的很感兴趣。
- start: 914.349
  end: 916.389
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Now, the- the bad news...
  zh: 现在，坏消息是……
- start: 916.389
  end: 922.529
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I mean, you- you gotta have a pretty strong stomach to make your way through the comments on Reddit.
  zh: 我的意思是，你必须有很强的承受能力才能看完Reddit上的评论。
- start: 922.529
  end: 929.249
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Uh, is there an awful lot of vitriol, awful lot of hatred of the church, hatred of God?
  zh: 有很多恶意，很多对教会的仇恨，对神的仇恨吗？
- start: 929.249
  end: 930.049
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Uh-huh.
  zh: 是的。
- start: 930.049
  end: 932.149
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Fortitude?
  zh: 刚毅？
- start: 932.149
  end: 933.169
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You bet.
  zh: 当然需要。
- start: 933.169
  end: 936.129
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Those who are defending and spreading the faith need it.
  zh: 那些捍卫和传播信仰的人需要它。
- start: 936.129
  end: 937.889
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's a gift of the Holy Spirit.
  zh: 这是圣灵的恩赐。
- start: 937.889
  end: 940.829
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: How about counsel?
  zh: 那超见呢？
- start: 940.829
  end: 945.369
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Counsel's a gift given at confirmation, a gift of the Holy Spirit.
  zh: 超见是在坚振时赐下的，是圣灵的恩赐。
- start: 945.369
  end: 950.169
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Counsel is moral knowhow.
  zh: 超见是道德的实践智慧。
- start: 950.169
  end: 966.029
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Think of a, uh, of a skilled quarterback who's able to read the defense, call an audible 'cause he knows things have shifted, who goes back in the pocket and sees the play is broken down, but here's another play that he could develop if he scrambles a bit here.
  zh: 想想一个熟练的四分卫，他能读懂防守，因为他知道形势已经改变而临时改变战术，他退到口袋阵里看到战术已经被打乱，但如果他在这里稍微移动一下，他就能发展出另一个战术。
- start: 966.029
  end: 968.827
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It's a feel, it's a knowhow....
  zh: 这是一种感觉，一种实践智慧……
- start: 968.827
  end: 970.787
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: what to do in the present situation.
  zh: 知道在当前情况下该做什么。
- start: 970.787
  end: 979.367
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Or think of someone skilled in the, in their area of business that can do a similar move, can adjust and can make, uh, changes in their plans, et cetera.
  zh: 或者想想在商业领域熟练的人也能做类似的动作，能调整并改变他们的计划等等。
- start: 979.367
  end: 982.407
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's prudence or practical wisdom.
  zh: 这就是明智或实践智慧。
- start: 982.407
  end: 991.148
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: So counsel is this kind of practical wisdom when it comes to the moral life and the spiritual life.
  zh: 所以超见是在道德生活和灵修生活中的这种实践智慧。
- start: 991.148
  end: 994.407
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: '"What do I do now, Lord?'
  zh: 「主啊，我现在该做什么？
- start: 994.407
  end: 997.568
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: What, what's the, the demand of the moment now?
  zh: 现在的要求是什么？
- start: 997.568
  end: 1002.328
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Lord, as things are shifting in maybe ways I didn't imagine, how do I react?
  zh: 主啊，当事情以我没有想到的方式改变时，我该如何反应？
- start: 1002.328
  end: 1003.087
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: What do I do?
  zh: 我该做什么？
- start: 1003.087
  end: 1006.887
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: How do I choose?" Think of the great figures now in the Bible.
  zh: 我该如何选择？」想想圣经中的伟大人物。
- start: 1006.887
  end: 1008.028
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Think of the great saints.
  zh: 想想伟大的圣人们。
- start: 1008.028
  end: 1010.167
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: They had this gift of counsel.
  zh: 他们有这种超见的恩赐。
- start: 1010.167
  end: 1014.287
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Do you want to defend the faith and spread the faith?
  zh: 你想捍卫和传播信仰吗？
- start: 1014.287
  end: 1016.447
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You need this.
  zh: 你需要这个。
- start: 1016.447
  end: 1017.047
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Now, why?
  zh: 为什么？
- start: 1017.047
  end: 1017.428
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Why?
  zh: 为什么？
- start: 1017.428
  end: 1029.687
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Because as Saint Pope Paul VI put it, "People listen to teachers, yes, but only in the measure that teachers are also witnesses." You see what he meant.
  zh: 因为正如圣教宗保禄六世所说：「人们听从教师，是的，但只在教师也是见证人的程度上。」你明白他的意思。
- start: 1029.687
  end: 1035.387
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: People that know how to live the Christian life, th- they exhibit the Christian life in action.
  zh: 那些知道如何过基督徒生活的人，他们在行动中展现基督徒的生活。
- start: 1035.387
  end: 1038.227
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's what people of counsel have.
  zh: 这就是有超见的人所具有的。
- start: 1038.227
  end: 1043.087
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: How about the gift of piety?
  zh: 那孝爱的恩赐呢？
- start: 1043.087
  end: 1057.167
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I look out at the kids that I'm confirming and I say, "I bet most of you wouldn't want to be called pious, would you?" You know, we, we kind of associate pious with a sort of simpering religiosity maybe , you know, but that's not at all what it means.
  zh: 我看着我要给他们坚振的孩子们说：「我打赌你们大多数人都不想被称为虔诚，对吧？」你知道，我们常常把虔诚与某种做作的宗教性联系在一起，但这完全不是它的意思。
- start: 1057.167
  end: 1075.487
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Piety is a type of justice, rendering to God what is due to God, God who made us from nothing, God who gave us being and life and breath and power and capacity.
  zh: 孝爱是一种正义，将应归于神的归于神，这位从无中创造了我们的神，赐给我们存在、生命、气息、力量和能力的神。
- start: 1075.487
  end: 1078.407
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Whatever we have, it's been given to us.
  zh: 我们所有的一切都是被赐予的。
- start: 1078.407
  end: 1079.327
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Paul said that.
  zh: 保罗说过这话。
- start: 1079.327
  end: 1091.767
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: '"What do you have that''s not been given?" Well, piety now is the response of someone who says, "Yes, Lord, I know that, and therefore I owe you my worship.'
  zh: 「你有什么不是领受的呢？」孝爱就是一个人的回应，说：「是的，主，我知道这一点，因此我欠你敬拜。
- start: 1091.767
  end: 1093.247
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I owe you my honor.
  zh: 我欠你尊崇。
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  en: I owe you my life." That's not simpering religiosity.
  zh: 我欠你生命。」这不是做作的宗教性。
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  en: That's a very strong stance.
  zh: 这是一个很坚定的立场。
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  en: That's the person that knows, "My, my obligation in justice is to go to mass, is to pray, is to give honor to God." You want to defend the faith and spread it, you need those things absolutely.
  zh: 这是一个知道「我在正义上的义务是去参与弥撒，是祈祷，是尊崇神」的人。你想捍卫和传播信仰，你绝对需要这些。
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  en: Finally, fear of the Lord.
  zh: 最后，敬畏上主。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: That's a gift of the Spirit.
  zh: 这是圣灵的恩赐。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Hasn't a thing to do with being terrified of God.
  zh: 这与害怕神毫无关系。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Don't think of it that way.
  zh: 不要那样想。
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  end: 1136.167
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: But this deep and profound and abiding awe in the presence of God, I'd put it that way.
  zh: 而是在神面前深深的、彻底的、持久的敬畏，我会这样说。
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  en: Who deserves the deepest reverence of which our heart is capable?
  zh: 谁值得我们心中最深的崇敬？
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  end: 1145.527
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: God alone.
  zh: 唯独神。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Not family, not country, as, as wonderful as those are, not my organization, my company, as great as those might be.
  zh: 不是家庭，不是国家，尽管这些都很好，不是我的组织，我的公司，尽管这些可能都很棒。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: The only one that deserves the deepest, most ardent reverence of which my heart is capable is God.
  zh: 唯一值得我心中最深、最热切崇敬的是神。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: And therefore, I have fear of the Lord.
  zh: 因此，我有敬畏上主的心。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: What attracts people to our faith?
  zh: 什么能吸引人们信仰我们的信仰？
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Yes, clarity of thought.
  zh: 是的，思想的清晰。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I'm all in favor of it.
  zh: 我完全赞成。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: I want understanding and knowledge, absolutely.
  zh: 我要聪敏和知识，绝对要。
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  end: 1182.247
  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Moral uprightness, yeah, people of counsel, that attracts people to the faith.
  zh: 道德正直，是的，有超见的人，这吸引人们信仰。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: But I think maybe more than anything else, when they sense in us that God has lit the deepest and most abiding fire in our hearts, when they see that in us, they sense that in us, they're drawn.
  zh: 但我认为也许比其他任何事情更重要的是，当他们在我们身上感受到神点燃了我们心中最深和最持久的火焰，当他们看到这一点，感受到这一点，他们就被吸引了。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: And so we need this gift of fear of the Lord if we are to spread the faith.
  zh: 所以如果我们要传播信仰，我们需要这个敬畏上主的恩赐。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Let me close with this.
  zh: 让我以此结束。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: This is based now on, on, you know, lots and lots of confirmations and doing the confirmation ceremony.
  zh: 这是基于很多很多次的坚振和主持坚振礼。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: We ask the young people...
  zh: 我们请年轻人……
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Again, they're mostly young people...
  zh: 再说一次，他们大多是年轻人……
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: to stand, and then I take them through their baptismal promises.
  zh: 站起来，然后我带领他们重复他们的洗礼誓言。
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  en: Again, remember the connection between confirmation and baptism, both sacraments of initiation.
  zh: 再次记住，坚振和洗礼之间的联系，它们都是入门圣事。
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  en: I take them through their baptismal promises.
  zh: 我带领他们重复他们的洗礼誓言。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: '"Do you believe in God?'
  zh: 「你信神吗？
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
  zh: 你信耶稣基督吗？
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Do you believe in the Holy Spirit?
  zh: 你信圣灵吗？
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Do you renounce Satan and all his works?" What am I doing in the name of the church?
  zh: 你弃绝撒旦和他的一切作为吗？」我以教会的名义在做什么？
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  en: I'm compelling these young people to stand on their own two feet and tell God and everybody in that room who they are, what they stand for.
  zh: 我在促使这些年轻人站起来，向神和房间里的每个人表明他们是谁，他们为什么而立。
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  en: When a, um, a young man joined the Roman Army in ancient times, he took an oath expressing his loyalty to the Roman Army and the Roman Empire.
  zh: 在古代，当一个年轻人加入罗马军队时，他要宣誓表达对罗马军队和罗马帝国的忠诚。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You know what that oath was called?
  zh: 你知道那个誓言叫什么吗？
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It was called a sacramentum in Latin, a sacrament.
  zh: 在拉丁语中叫做sacramentum，即圣事。
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  en: You see now, these soldiers of Christ to be, the church compels them to make a public sacramentum, a public declaration of who they are.
  zh: 你现在明白了，这些即将成为基督战士的人，教会要求他们作出公开的sacramentum，公开宣告他们是谁。
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  en: And then, they come forward one by one, and I anoint them, how strange, really, with the sign of the cross of Jesus, which was meant, by the way, in the ancient Roman world to be a sign of shame.
  zh: 然后，他们一个一个上前来，我给他们傅油，真的很奇怪，用耶稣的十字圣号，顺便说一下，这在古罗马世界是一个耻辱的记号。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Th- that's what we'll do to you if you, if you get in our way.
  zh: 如果你挡我们的路，我们就会这样对你。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: We'll, we'll put you on this instrument of torture.
  zh: 我们会把你放在这个刑具上。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: But see, we Christians hold it up even as a kind of taunt.
  zh: 但是看，我们基督徒举起它，甚至像是一种挑战。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Why?
  zh: 为什么？
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Because we know God's love is more powerful than the cross.
  zh: 因为我们知道神的爱比十字架更有力量。
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  en: It's more powerful than anything that's in the world.
  zh: 它比世界上的任何事物都更有力量。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It's more powerful than the cruelty of human beings.
  zh: 它比人类的残酷更有力量。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: And so we hold up that cross of Jesus, and I...
  zh: 所以我们举起耶稣的十字架，我……
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Listen, now.
  zh: 现在听好。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: In the name of the church, brand those young people with that sign, because confirmation is one of these character sacraments.
  zh: 以教会的名义，用这个记号给这些年轻人打上印记，因为坚振是这些印记性圣事之一。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: You know where that word comes from?
  zh: 你知道这个词从哪里来的吗？
- start: 1341.287
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Our word character is from a Latin word, .
  zh: 我们的character这个词来自拉丁语。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: It means a brand.
  zh: 它的意思是印记。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: When you joined the Roman Army, you took your sacramentum, your oath, but you know what they did next?
  zh: 当你加入罗马军队时，你宣誓了你的sacramentum，但你知道他们接下来做什么吗？
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: And maybe, remember the movie, uh, it's an old movie now, um, uh, Gladiator with, uh, Russell Crowe, remember?
  zh: 也许，记得那部电影，现在是部老电影了，《角斗士》，罗素·克劳主演的，记得吗？
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  en: He had this, uh, tattoo on his arm, because they would brand you, they'd brand you with the, with the tattoo of the Roman Army.
  zh: 他手臂上有这个纹身，因为他们会给你打上印记，给你打上罗马军队的纹身印记。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Once these young people make their sacramentum, I then, in the name of the church, brand them for this life and the life to come with the sign of Christ's cross to make them soldiers of Christ, stirring up their baptismal charism so they can defend the faith and spread the faith, knowing that not even the gates of hell will prevail against them.
  zh: 一旦这些年轻人作出他们的sacramentum，我就以教会的名义，用基督十字架的记号给他们打上今生和来世的印记，使他们成为基督的战士，激发他们洗礼的神恩，使他们能捍卫信仰和传播信仰，知道连阴间的门都不能胜过他们。
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  speaker: speaker_0
  en: Everybody, that's the power of confirmation.
  zh: 各位，这就是坚振的力量。
