- start: 0.069
  end: 1.07
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Howdy, folks.
  zh: 大家好。
- start: 1.07
  end: 8.155
  speaker: jimmy
  en: This is just a reminder that if you like this content, you can help me out by liking, commenting, and especially by subscribing.
  zh: 提醒一下，如果你喜欢这些内容，可以通过点赞、评论，尤其是订阅来支持我。
- start: 8.155
  end: 13.119
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And be sure to hit the bell notification so you always get notified whenever I have a new video.
  zh: 记得点击小铃铛，这样每次有新视频时你都会收到通知。
- start: 13.139
  end: 14.4
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Hope you enjoy this.
  zh: 希望你喜欢。
- start: 15.618
  end: 17.019
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So let's talk about Jesus.
  zh: 那么，让我们来谈谈耶稣。
- start: 17.019
  end: 20.5
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Now the theme of the conference is "Who do you say that I am?"
  zh: 这次会议的主题是「你们说我是谁？」
- start: 20.5
  end: 31.625
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And they wanted me to kind of give you a basic overview of the Christian and Catholic view of Christ, who he is, how to answer this question.
  zh: 他们希望我为你们概述基督徒和公教会对基督的看法，他是谁，如何回答这个问题。
- start: 31.725
  end: 36.649
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So it's meant to be a kind of basic introduction to the subject of our conference.
  zh: 所以这应该是对我们会议主题的基本介绍。
- start: 36.649
  end: 42.432
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And if I was putting the schedule together, I would put the basic introduction, you know, at the beginning of the conference.
  zh: 如果是我安排日程，我会把基本介绍放在会议的开头。
- start: 44.134
  end: 48.177
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But here we are almost at the end, and now you're being given the basics.
  zh: 但现在我们几乎到了尾声，你们才得到这些基础内容。
- start: 48.177
  end: 55.122
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Cy Kellett, host of Catholic Answers Live, suggested they did that so that I could correct anything that the others had said.
  zh: 《天主教答疑》主持人赛·凯莱特建议这样安排，是为了让我纠正其他人可能说错的地方。
- start: 55.762
  end: 57.503
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But I'll leave that to you to figure out.
  zh: 但我把这个留给你们自己判断。
- start: 57.503
  end: 60.043
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Now, "Who do you say that I am?"
  zh: 现在，「你们说我是谁？」
- start: 60.043
  end: 62.924
  speaker: jimmy
  en: is a question that Jesus asks in the Gospels.
  zh: 是耶稣在福音书中问的问题。
- start: 62.924
  end: 65.125
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In which Gospel does he ask that?
  zh: 他在哪卷福音书中问的？
- start: 65.845
  end: 66.826
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Matthew.
  zh: 马太福音。
- start: 66.826
  end: 69.726
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In which chapter of Matthew does he ask that?
  zh: 他在哪一章问的？
- start: 70.367
  end: 74.368
  speaker: jimmy
  en: 16. So which chapter of Matthew are we about to talk about?
  zh: 16章。那么我们要谈马太福音的哪一章？
- start: 75.507
  end: 77.028
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Matthew 16, that's right.
  zh: 马太福音16章，对了。
- start: 77.028
  end: 88.917
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So, in Matthew 16, now, when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do men say that the Son of Man is?"
  zh: 在马太福音16章，耶稣到了该撒利亚腓立比的境内，就问门徒说：「人说我人子是谁？」
- start: 89.098
  end: 96.363
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And they said, "Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
  zh: 他们说：「有人说是施洗的约翰；有人说是以利亚；又有人说是耶利米或是先知里的一位。」
- start: 96.543
  end: 100.106
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
  zh: 耶稣说：「你们说我是谁？」
- start: 100.286
  end: 105.049
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Simon Peter replied, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
  zh: 西门彼得回答说：「你是基督，是永生神的儿子。」
- start: 106.061
  end: 108.903
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So that's the key confession that Peter makes.
  zh: 这就是彼得所作的关键告白。
- start: 108.903
  end: 111.945
  speaker: jimmy
  en: You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
  zh: 你是基督，是永生神的儿子。
- start: 112.146
  end: 116.449
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Remember it because there will be a quiz later.
  zh: 记住这句话，稍后会有测验。
- start: 116.93
  end: 123.635
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In thinking about this passage, I'm reminded of this old game show that they used to have called "You Bet Your Life."
  zh: 想到这段经文，我想起以前有个叫「你赌你的命」的老游戏节目。
- start: 123.635
  end: 125.336
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And it starred Groucho Marx.
  zh: 由格劳乔·马克思主持。
- start: 125.336
  end: 131.261
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It wasn't so much a game show as an opportunity for Groucho Marx to make snide comments about the contestants.
  zh: 与其说是游戏节目，不如说是格劳乔·马克思讽刺选手的机会。
- start: 131.321
  end: 140.005
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But in every episode of "You Bet Your Life," they had a secret word that nobody knew.
  zh: 但在每集「你赌你的命」中都有一个没人知道的秘密词。
- start: 140.005
  end: 141.886
  speaker: jimmy
  en: None of the contestants knew it.
  zh: 选手们都不知道。
- start: 141.886
  end: 155.753
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But if they happened to say the secret word by chance, then a duck that looked like Groucho would come down and you'd win $100. And so one of the catchphrases of "You Bet Your Life" was, "Say the secret word and win $100." Well...
  zh: 但如果他们偶然说出了这个秘密词，就会有一只像格劳乔的鸭子下来，你就赢得100美元。所以「你赌你的命」的口号之一是：「说出秘密词，赢得100美元。」那么……
- start: 158.542
  end: 162.105
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Simon Peter replied, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
  zh: 西门彼得回答说：「你是基督，是永生神的儿子。」
- start: 162.105
  end: 166.108
  speaker: jimmy
  en: That's kind of the "say the secret word, win $100" moment.
  zh: 这就像「说出秘密词，赢得100美元」的时刻。
- start: 166.108
  end: 169.911
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Only he didn't get $100. He got the keys to the kingdom.
  zh: 只是他没得到100美元，而是得到了天国的钥匙。
- start: 170.852
  end: 177.197
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And those have to be, you know, worth at least $100. It worked out well for him.
  zh: 那钥匙至少值100美元，对他来说很划算。
- start: 177.197
  end: 180.338
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Now, he had two key elements in his confession.
  zh: 他的告白中有两个关键要素。
- start: 180.338
  end: 182.879
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The first one, he said, "You are the Christ."
  zh: 首先，他说：「你是基督。」
- start: 182.879
  end: 185.519
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The second, he said, "You are the Son of God."
  zh: 其次，他说：「你是神的儿子。」
- start: 185.659
  end: 188.46
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So, that's what we're going to talk about.
  zh: 所以，这就是我们要谈论的。
- start: 188.46
  end: 192.962
  speaker: jimmy
  en: If you want to understand Jesus, you need to understand those two things.
  zh: 要明白耶稣，你需要理解这两点。
- start: 193.002
  end: 196.023
  speaker: jimmy
  en: What does it mean for Jesus to be the Christ?
  zh: 耶稣是基督是什么意思？
- start: 196.343
  end: 199.564
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, Christ is an English word.
  zh: 基督是个英语词。
- start: 200.532
  end: 204.153
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But it's not the only English word that we have for this concept.
  zh: 但这不是我们用来表达这个概念的唯一英语词。
- start: 204.153
  end: 205.113
  speaker: jimmy
  en: There's another.
  zh: 还有另一个。
- start: 205.113
  end: 209.374
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Who can think of the other English word that we have that means Christ?
  zh: 谁能想到另一个表示基督的英语词？
- start: 210.835
  end: 213.236
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Okay, let's try it.
  zh: 好，让我们试试。
- start: 213.436
  end: 219.198
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The Hallelujah Chorus is part of Handel's Messiah, right.
  zh: 《哈利路亚大合唱》是亨德尔的《弥赛亚》的一部分，对吧。
- start: 219.198
  end: 222.72
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So that's another English word that also means Christ.
  zh: 所以「弥赛亚」也是表示基督的另一个英语词。
- start: 222.72
  end: 224.201
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Where did we get these words?
  zh: 这些词从哪里来的？
- start: 224.201
  end: 228.223
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, we got them from Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew.
  zh: 我们从希腊语、亚兰语和希伯来语中得到的。
- start: 228.363
  end: 230.864
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And they're all really fun to say.
  zh: 这些词都很有趣。
- start: 231.585
  end: 235.687
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In Greek, the word for Christ is Christos.
  zh: 希腊语中，基督这个词是Christos。
- start: 236.387
  end: 240.672
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And that's fun to say because it's got that sound in it.
  zh: 这个词有趣，因为它有那个音。
- start: 240.672
  end: 244.776
  speaker: jimmy
  en: We normally don't get to do that in polite English.
  zh: 在礼貌的英语中，我们通常不会这样发音。
- start: 245.578
  end: 250.403
  speaker: jimmy
  en: However, if you want to, you can go to Scotland and visit Loch Ness.
  zh: 不过，如果你愿意，可以去苏格兰参观尼斯湖。
- start: 251.264
  end: 253.827
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But normally, we don't get to say that sound.
  zh: 但通常我们不会发那个音。
- start: 253.827
  end: 258.871
  speaker: jimmy
  en: If we didn't all have COVID in here, I'd encourage us to all just say it together.
  zh: 如果这里没有疫情，我会鼓励大家一起说。
- start: 259.572
  end: 263.675
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But it can generate a little spray, so be safe.
  zh: 但可能会有些飞沫，所以要安全。
- start: 264.136
  end: 268.059
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In any event, the Greek word for Christ is Christos.
  zh: 总之，希腊语中基督这个词是Christos。
- start: 268.119
  end: 273.084
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The Aramaic word is Mshiach, so it's got that same sound in it.
  zh: 亚兰语中是Mshiach，也有那个音。
- start: 273.084
  end: 276.306
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And the Hebrew word is Mshiach.
  zh: 希伯来语中是Mshiach。
- start: 276.627
  end: 283.151
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So that's where we get Christ from Greek and Messiah from Aramaic and Hebrew.
  zh: 所以我们从希腊语得到基督，从亚兰语和希伯来语得到弥赛亚。
- start: 283.271
  end: 287.654
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But what do all of these words mean?
  zh: 但这些词都是什么意思？
- start: 289.075
  end: 290.256
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Anointed, right.
  zh: 受膏者，对吧。
- start: 290.256
  end: 292.517
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Anointed or anointed one.
  zh: 受膏或受膏者。
- start: 292.517
  end: 294.698
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But that only raises a question.
  zh: 但这又引出一个问题。
- start: 295.099
  end: 296.419
  speaker: jimmy
  en: What is anointing?
  zh: 什么是膏抹？
- start: 297.04
  end: 300.164
  speaker: jimmy
  en: I mean, we don't anoint a lot of stuff these days.
  zh: 我们现在不常膏抹什么东西。
- start: 300.164
  end: 302.906
  speaker: jimmy
  en: When was the last time you anointed anything?
  zh: 你上次膏抹什么东西是什么时候？
- start: 303.187
  end: 308.092
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It's not a word that people who weren't raised Christian will frequently even know.
  zh: 这不是非基督徒家庭的人常常知道的词。
- start: 308.172
  end: 313.077
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So here, from the online etymological dictionary, we have where it comes from.
  zh: 所以我们从在线词源词典中看到它的来源。
- start: 313.598
  end: 317.161
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Anoint entered the English language in the 14th century.
  zh: 「膏抹」这个词在14世纪进入英语。
- start: 318.456
  end: 323.141
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And it meant to pour oil upon or smear with ointment.
  zh: 意思是倒油或涂抹膏油。
- start: 323.522
  end: 327.446
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And you might wonder, why would you pour oil on something?
  zh: 你可能会想，为什么要倒油在什么东西上？
- start: 327.446
  end: 328.887
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Why would you do this?
  zh: 为什么要这样做？
- start: 328.887
  end: 331.169
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, what they were doing in the 1400s was...
  zh: 在1400年代，他们这样做是为了……
- start: 334.413
  end: 340.756
  speaker: jimmy
  en: smear grease or oil on something for medicinal purposes, like ointment.
  zh: 为了药用目的，在东西上涂抹油脂，就像膏药。
- start: 340.756
  end: 341.877
  speaker: jimmy
  en: That's what we have today.
  zh: 这就是我们今天所用的。
- start: 341.877
  end: 343.717
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It's related to the same word.
  zh: 与同一个词有关。
- start: 343.737
  end: 354.843
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Eventually, though, the word anoint got used in the Coverdale Bible with reference to Christ as the anointed one, and so that's resulted in the word becoming spiritualized.
  zh: 然而，最终在科弗代尔圣经中，「膏抹」这个词被用来指基督这位受膏者，因此这个词变得灵性化了。
- start: 354.843
  end: 360.485
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So now people in English will talk about they have an anointing from God to do something.
  zh: 所以现在英语中人们会说他们有神的膏抹去做某事。
- start: 360.505
  end: 365.433
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But originally, in the first century, it didn't have this spiritualized meaning necessarily.
  zh: 但最初在一世纪，这个词不一定有灵性化的含义。
- start: 365.494
  end: 375.088
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Here is a scene from Luke 7 where Jesus is at the house of Simon the Pharisee and a sinful woman anoints his feet.
  zh: 在路加福音7章，有一个场景是耶稣在法利赛人西门家里，一个有罪的女人膏抹他的脚。
- start: 377.952
  end: 383.417
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Putting slippery stuff on his feet doesn't sound really particularly spiritual, does it?
  zh: 在他脚上涂抹滑溜溜的东西听起来并不特别灵性，对吧？
- start: 383.958
  end: 389.563
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Also, his feet weren't the only place that you would expect an anointing.
  zh: 而且，他的脚也不是唯一你会想到膏抹的地方。
- start: 389.563
  end: 394.668
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In fact, there's another part of the body you would expect an anointing even more, and Jesus points it out.
  zh: 事实上，还有身体的另一个部分更需要膏抹，耶稣指出了这一点。
- start: 394.668
  end: 404.502
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He talks to his host and he says, "You, Simon the Pharisee, did not anoint my head with oil, but she has anointed my feet with ointment."
  zh: 他对主人说：「你这法利赛人西门没有用油膏我的头，但这女人用香膏膏我的脚。」
- start: 404.823
  end: 411.054
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And you might wonder, well, why would anybody want oil poured on their head?
  zh: 你可能会想，为什么有人会想要油倒在头上？
- start: 411.775
  end: 413.336
  speaker: jimmy
  en: You know, it seems kind of strange.
  zh: 这似乎有点奇怪。
- start: 413.336
  end: 421.861
  speaker: jimmy
  en: If you walked into your kitchen and one of your family members took some olive oil and just dumped it on you, how would you react?
  zh: 如果你走进厨房，你的家人拿橄榄油倒在你身上，你会怎么反应？
- start: 422.881
  end: 426.083
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It probably wouldn't be something that you would be very pleased with.
  zh: 你可能不会很高兴。
- start: 426.083
  end: 428.684
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But here, Jesus seems to expect it.
  zh: 但在这里，耶稣似乎期待这样做。
- start: 428.705
  end: 433.547
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So it's something that a host might do for an honored guest.
  zh: 所以这是主人可能为尊贵客人所做的事。
- start: 433.628
  end: 437.97
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So why would someone in the ancient world want oil poured on them?
  zh: 那么，古代的人为什么会想要油倒在他们身上呢？
- start: 438.21
  end: 442.812
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, there's something we have today that they didn't have then.
  zh: 我们今天有的东西，他们那时没有。
- start: 444.934
  end: 449.056
  speaker: jimmy
  en: You couldn't just go on Amazon and buy a case of deodorant.
  zh: 你不能上亚马逊买一箱除臭剂。
- start: 449.056
  end: 455.239
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so what they would do is they would take oil and they would put fragrances and perfumes in it.
  zh: 所以他们会用油加上香料和香水。
- start: 455.239
  end: 459.681
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so it would then, when they would pour it on you, it would smell really good.
  zh: 这样当他们倒在你身上时，会有很好的香味。
- start: 460.081
  end: 462.863
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so this was an item of personal care that they would do.
  zh: 所以这是他们个人护理的一部分。
- start: 462.863
  end: 466.344
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It's kind of like putting on cologne or perfume or something like that.
  zh: 有点像涂抹古龙水或香水之类的东西。
- start: 466.504
  end: 468.906
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And it was something they looked forward to.
  zh: 这是他们期待的事情。
- start: 468.906
  end: 471.667
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It was considered a very pleasant thing.
  zh: 被认为是非常愉快的事情。
- start: 471.667
  end: 479.711
  speaker: jimmy
  en: As we can see here from Psalm 133, where the psalmist is making a comparison involving anointing.
  zh: 正如我们在诗篇133篇中看到的，诗人用膏抹作比较。
- start: 479.711
  end: 486.355
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He says, "...behold how good and pleasant it is when brothers dwell in unity.
  zh: 他说：「看哪，弟兄和睦同居是何等地善，何等地美！
- start: 486.975
  end: 497.765
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It is like the precious oil upon the head running down upon the beard, upon the beard of Aaron, running down on the collar of his robes."
  zh: 这好比那贵重的油浇在亚伦的头上，流到胡须，又流到他的衣襟。」
- start: 497.826
  end: 503.511
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So Aaron was the high priest in Israel, the most important religious figure in Israel.
  zh: 亚伦是以色列的大祭司，以色列最重要的宗教人物。
- start: 503.671
  end: 509.716
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so he would have this precious oil poured on him, and it would smell really good.
  zh: 所以他会被倒上这贵重的油，闻起来非常香。
- start: 509.836
  end: 517.322
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And the psalmist is comparing that to how good it is when brothers are not fighting like siblings.
  zh: 诗人将此比作弟兄不争斗时的美好。
- start: 518.363
  end: 527.47
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Now, it turns out this oil on the beard thing, that's come back into style, at least with hipsters.
  zh: 现在，胡须油又流行起来了，至少在时尚人士中是这样。
- start: 527.47
  end: 529.651
  speaker: jimmy
  en: These days you can also buy this.
  zh: 如今你也可以买到。
- start: 532.316
  end: 535.338
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And beard oil comes in a bunch of different fragrances.
  zh: 胡须油有多种不同的香味。
- start: 535.338
  end: 537.179
  speaker: jimmy
  en: This one is tobacco vanilla.
  zh: 这个是烟草香草味。
- start: 537.179
  end: 542.842
  speaker: jimmy
  en: They also have orange cream and cherry and a whole bunch of other fragrances.
  zh: 还有橙奶油、樱桃和其他许多香味。
- start: 542.842
  end: 546.324
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Sometimes people have asked me, do I use beard oil?
  zh: 有时人们问我是否用胡须油。
- start: 546.704
  end: 553.668
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And the answer is I have tried it, but, you know, using it regularly would be kind of expensive.
  zh: 答案是我试过，但你知道，常用的话有点贵。
- start: 554.789
  end: 557.29
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Maybe I could get a bulk discount, I don't know.
  zh: 也许我可以批量折扣，我不知道。
- start: 558.091
  end: 560.593
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But in any event, that's what anointing is.
  zh: 但无论如何，这就是膏抹的意义。
- start: 560.593
  end: 565.117
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But it wasn't just an item of personal care in ancient Israel.
  zh: 但在古代以色列，膏抹不仅仅是个人护理。
- start: 565.117
  end: 567.819
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It also had an important significance.
  zh: 它还有重要的意义。
- start: 567.819
  end: 572.002
  speaker: jimmy
  en: This is a story, this is a scene from 1 Samuel.
  zh: 这是一个故事，一个来自撒母耳记上的场景。
- start: 572.002
  end: 579.167
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And at this point in 1 Samuel, Saul is hunting David in the wilderness because he wants to kill him.
  zh: 在撒母耳记上这个时候，扫罗在旷野追杀大卫，因为他想要杀他。
- start: 579.648
  end: 586.233
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And David and his men are holed up in a cave, and Saul doesn't know that.
  zh: 大卫和他的人藏在一个洞里，扫罗不知道。
- start: 586.273
  end: 591.738
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And by himself, without even a bodyguard there, he goes into a cave.
  zh: 他独自一人，甚至没有护卫，走进一个洞。
- start: 591.858
  end: 598.024
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Now, this is a family-friendly picture where the artist has depicted Saul sleeping.
  zh: 这是一个适合家庭观看的画面，画家把扫罗描绘成在睡觉。
- start: 598.345
  end: 603.889
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But if you're a king, would you really go into a cave without a bodyguard to take a nap?
  zh: 但如果你是国王，你真的会不带护卫进洞小睡吗？
- start: 605.413
  end: 612.258
  speaker: jimmy
  en: No, but there is one thing that a king might go into a cave to do without a bodyguard.
  zh: 不会，但有一件事国王可能会不带护卫进洞去做。
- start: 613.059
  end: 616.881
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The one thing he might do is a number two.
  zh: 他可能要做的就是如厕。
- start: 618.003
  end: 621.225
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And that's actually what's happening in the text.
  zh: 这实际上就是经文中发生的事。
- start: 621.225
  end: 630.452
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so while he's relieving himself, as most modern Bibles put it, David sneaks up behind him and cuts off the hem of his garment.
  zh: 当他如厕时，正如大多数现代圣经所说，大卫悄悄走到他身后，割下他的外袍衣襟。
- start: 630.712
  end: 645.587
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And then, after Saul leaves the cave, David comes out, now that he's at a safe distance, and says, "The Lord gave you into my hand in the cave, and some bade me kill you, but I spared you.
  zh: 然后，扫罗离开洞后，大卫出来，离他有安全距离，说：「耶和华将你交在我手里，有人叫我杀你，但我却怜恤你。
- start: 645.708
  end: 653.035
  speaker: jimmy
  en: I said, I will not put forth my hand against my Lord, for he is the Lord's anointed."
  zh: 我说，我不敢伸手害我的主，因为他是耶和华的受膏者。」
- start: 653.135
  end: 656.557
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And in Hebrew, the word is Mashiach.
  zh: 在希伯来语中，这个词是Mashiach。
- start: 656.798
  end: 659.339
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So, he's the Lord's Messiah.
  zh: 所以，他是耶和华的弥赛亚。
- start: 659.6
  end: 665.083
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And then he holds up the hem of the garment and says, "Remember this?
  zh: 然后他举起衣襟说：「记得这个吗？
- start: 665.264
  end: 666.705
  speaker: jimmy
  en: You recognize this?
  zh: 你认得这个吗？
- start: 666.705
  end: 677.452
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It's proof that I could have killed you and I didn't." But the point I want to draw from this is that you have Saul as the Lord's Messiah.
  zh: 这是我本可以杀你而没有的证据。」但我想指出的是，扫罗是耶和华的弥赛亚。
- start: 677.792
  end: 679.593
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And it's not just Saul.
  zh: 而且不仅仅是扫罗。
- start: 681.138
  end: 692.523
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Elsewhere, the prophet Samuel anoints David to be king over Israel, and so David is also one of the Lord's anointed or one of the Lord's messiahs.
  zh: 在其他地方，先知撒母耳膏立大卫作以色列的王，所以大卫也是耶和华的受膏者之一，或耶和华的弥赛亚之一。
- start: 692.523
  end: 696.885
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And you don't even have to be a Jew to be one of the Lord's messiahs.
  zh: 你甚至不必是犹太人也可以成为耶和华的弥赛亚之一。
- start: 696.885
  end: 703.888
  speaker: jimmy
  en: This is a carving of Cyrus the Great, also known as Cyrus the Persian.
  zh: 这是居鲁士大帝的雕刻，也称波斯的居鲁士。
- start: 703.888
  end: 710.411
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He was a Persian emperor in the 500s BC, and he was one of the Lord's messiahs.
  zh: 他是公元前500年代的波斯皇帝，是耶和华的弥赛亚之一。
- start: 710.512
  end: 718.857
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It says so right in Isaiah 45, where God is talking and he says, "Thus says the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus."
  zh: 在以赛亚书45章中，神说：「耶和华对他的受膏者居鲁士如此说。」
- start: 718.957
  end: 721.599
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And again, it uses the word Mshiach.
  zh: 再次使用了Mashiach这个词。
- start: 722.06
  end: 725.742
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So Cyrus is one of the Lord's messiahs.
  zh: 所以居鲁士是耶和华的弥赛亚之一。
- start: 726.162
  end: 727.003
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Why?
  zh: 为什么？
- start: 727.003
  end: 729.845
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Why would this pagan be one of the Lord's messiahs?
  zh: 为什么这个外邦人会是耶和华的弥赛亚之一？
- start: 729.845
  end: 737.988
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, it's because—or at least in part, it's because Cyrus is the guy who ends the Babylonian exile.
  zh: 这是因为，或至少部分原因是，居鲁士结束了巴比伦的被掳。
- start: 738.068
  end: 743.829
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He's the one that lets the Jews go back to their land and start rebuilding their temple.
  zh: 他让犹太人回到他们的土地，开始重建圣殿。
- start: 743.829
  end: 745.55
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So he's a good guy.
  zh: 所以他是个好人。
- start: 745.79
  end: 750.011
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And as a result, Isaiah refers to him as the Lord's Messiah.
  zh: 因此，以赛亚称他为耶和华的弥赛亚。
- start: 750.011
  end: 755.993
  speaker: jimmy
  en: God raised him up in history to end the Babylonian exile and let the temple be rebuilt.
  zh: 神在历史中兴起他，结束巴比伦的被掳，让圣殿得以重建。
- start: 756.333
  end: 760.918
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So you don't have to be a Jew to be one of the Lord's messiahs.
  zh: 所以你不必是犹太人也可以成为耶和华的弥赛亚之一。
- start: 761.559
  end: 775.845
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And over the course of time, even though there were these multiple messiahs in the Old Testament, these multiple Christs, there came to be an expectation that there would be one in particular, that there was this coming Messiah.
  zh: 随着时间的推移，尽管旧约中有多个弥赛亚，多个基督，人们开始期待有一个特别的弥赛亚要来。
- start: 775.865
  end: 780.77
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And the Roman historian Suetonius talks about this in his Lives of the Caesars.
  zh: 罗马历史学家苏埃托尼乌斯在他的《罗马十二帝王传》中谈到这一点。
- start: 780.77
  end: 799.264
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He says that it was fated for the empire of the world at that time to devolve on someone who should go forth from Judea.
  zh: 他说，当时命定世界的帝国要归于从犹太出来的人。
- start: 799.464
  end: 805.268
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So someone was going to come forth from Judea and inherit the empire of the world.
  zh: 所以将有一人从犹太出来，继承世界的帝国。
- start: 805.288
  end: 809.09
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But remember, you don't have to be a Jew to be a Messiah.
  zh: 但记住，你不必是犹太人才能成为弥赛亚。
- start: 809.411
  end: 813.854
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so Suetonius thought that this prophecy applied to a Roman emperor.
  zh: 所以苏埃托尼乌斯认为这个预言是指罗马皇帝。
- start: 814.034
  end: 819.838
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He said this prediction referred to a Roman emperor as the event showed.
  zh: 他说这个预言是指罗马皇帝，正如事实所示。
- start: 820.079
  end: 824.182
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But the Jews, applying it to themselves, broke out into rebellion.
  zh: 但犹太人将其应用于自己，爆发了叛乱。
- start: 824.182
  end: 828.385
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So in the AD 60s, the Jews revolted against Roman rule.
  zh: 所以在公元60年代，犹太人反抗罗马统治。
- start: 828.385
  end: 835.771
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The Romans sent in the general Vespasian and his son Titus to put down the rebellion.
  zh: 罗马派将军维斯帕先和他的儿子提多去镇压叛乱。
- start: 835.811
  end: 841.095
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But while they're doing that, the legions acclaimed Vespasian, the emperor.
  zh: 但在此期间，军团拥立维斯帕先为皇帝。
- start: 841.295
  end: 847.876
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So he comes forth from Judea, goes back to Rome, and inherits the empire of the world.
  zh: 于是他从犹太出来，回到罗马，继承了世界的帝国。
- start: 848.177
  end: 852.597
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So Suetonius thought this prophecy was fulfilled in Vespasian.
  zh: 所以苏埃托尼乌斯认为这个预言在维斯帕先身上应验了。
- start: 852.778
  end: 859.099
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Josephus, the Jewish historian, says the same thing, though Josephus is probably lying about his own view.
  zh: 犹太历史学家约瑟夫也这么说，尽管约瑟夫可能对自己的观点撒了谎。
- start: 859.619
  end: 861.98
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Because Josephus lies a lot.
  zh: 因为约瑟夫常常撒谎。
- start: 863.0
  end: 874.805
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But there was this real expectation in the first century that there would be a Jewish leader who would kick out the Romans and revolutionize the world order.
  zh: 但在一世纪确实有这样的期待，认为会有一位犹太领袖赶走罗马人，革新世界秩序。
- start: 874.805
  end: 876.606
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And we see that in the Gospels.
  zh: 我们在福音书中看到这一点。
- start: 876.606
  end: 887.292
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In John 6, for example, we're told that Jesus perceives then that they were about to come and take him by force to make him king.
  zh: 例如，在约翰福音6章中，我们被告知耶稣知道他们要来强逼他作王。
- start: 887.572
  end: 891.335
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So he withdrew again to the hills by himself.
  zh: 于是他又独自退到山上。
- start: 891.335
  end: 901.562
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So Jesus was having to evade this expectation that people had that he would be a political Messiah that would lead a rebellion against the Romans.
  zh: 所以耶稣不得不避开人们对他作为政治弥赛亚、领导反抗罗马的期待。
- start: 901.823
  end: 905.305
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And other people were concerned about this too.
  zh: 其他人也对此感到担忧。
- start: 905.305
  end: 908.107
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The Jewish ruling council also was.
  zh: 犹太公会也是如此。
- start: 908.107
  end: 912.03
  speaker: jimmy
  en: They looked at things that Jesus had done, like clearing the temple.
  zh: 他们看到耶稣所做的事，如洁净圣殿。
- start: 912.39
  end: 924.618
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And they said, "If we let him go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and the Romans will come and destroy both our holy place, meaning our temple, and our nation."
  zh: 他们说：「若这样由着他，人人都要信他，罗马人也要来夺我们的地土，灭我们的百姓。」
- start: 924.719
  end: 926.86
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And that's what happened in the AD 60s and 70s.
  zh: 这正是公元60年代和70年代发生的事。
- start: 928.121
  end: 932.383
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But Jesus was not planning on being this type of Messiah.
  zh: 但耶稣并不打算成为这种弥赛亚。
- start: 932.404
  end: 940.628
  speaker: jimmy
  en: When Pontius Pilate asked him if he was king of the Jews, Jesus replied by saying, "My kingship is not of this world.
  zh: 当本丢彼拉多问他是否是犹太人的王时，耶稣回答说：「我的国不属这世界。
- start: 940.808
  end: 947.652
  speaker: jimmy
  en: If my kingship were of this world, my servants would fight that I might not be handed over to the Jews.
  zh: 我的国若属这世界，我的臣仆必要争战，使我不至于被交给犹太人。
- start: 947.652
  end: 950.273
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But my kingship is not from this world."
  zh: 只是我的国不属这世界。」
- start: 950.273
  end: 953.695
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So Jesus was not planning on being a political Messiah.
  zh: 所以耶稣并不打算成为政治弥赛亚。
- start: 953.695
  end: 962.056
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He was planning on being this kind of Messiah, which is not what most people were expecting.
  zh: 他计划成为这样的弥赛亚，这不是大多数人所期待的。
- start: 962.596
  end: 977.8
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But he made an impression, and as Mark's gospel tells us, at the crucifixion there was a Roman soldier who was very impressed, and he said, "Truly this man is the Son of God."
  zh: 但他给人留下了深刻印象，正如马可福音告诉我们的，在十字架上有一个罗马兵丁非常感动，说：「这人真是神的儿子！」
- start: 977.8
  end: 984.162
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Say the secret word and win $100. That's the second thing that is part of Peter's confession.
  zh: 说出秘密词，赢得100美元。这是彼得告白的第二部分。
- start: 984.162
  end: 987.443
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So now we need to talk about what it means to be the Son of God.
  zh: 所以现在我们需要谈论成为神的儿子是什么意思。
- start: 987.703
  end: 1002.366
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, the Catechism of the Catholic Church says that in the Old Testament, "Son of God" is a title given to the angels, the chosen people, the children of Israel, and their kings.
  zh: 《公教会教理》说，在旧约中，「神的儿子」是给天使、选民、以色列子民和他们的君王的称号。
- start: 1002.506
  end: 1012.168
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It signifies an adoptive sonship that establishes a relationship of particular intimacy between God and his creature.
  zh: 它表示一种被收纳的儿子身份，建立神与他的受造物之间特别亲密的关系。
- start: 1012.368
  end: 1021.156
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So you can be an ordinary creature of God, a created being that God nevertheless adopts so that you become a son of God.
  zh: 所以你可以是神的普通受造物，一个被造之物，但神收纳你，使你成为神的儿子。
- start: 1021.176
  end: 1036.25
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And the Catechism says that the Old Testament applies this to angels, to Israel as a whole, as the chosen people, also to individual Israelites, the children of Israel, and to the Israelite kings.
  zh: 教理说，旧约将此应用于天使、整体的以色列作为选民，也应用于个别以色列人，以色列的子民，以及以色列的君王。
- start: 1036.25
  end: 1037.59
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So where does it do that?
  zh: 那么在哪里这样做呢？
- start: 1037.59
  end: 1039.952
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Where does it do that?
  zh: 在哪里这样做呢？
- start: 1040.512
  end: 1041.413
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Yeah.
  zh: 是的。
- start: 1041.853
  end: 1057.023
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, in Job 1, we have this scene in heaven where God is in his heavenly court, and it says, "...now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them."
  zh: 在约伯记1章，我们有一个天上的场景，神在他的天庭中，说：「有一天，神的众子来侍立在耶和华面前，撒但也来在其中。」
- start: 1057.023
  end: 1062.065
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In Hebrew, Satan means the accuser.
  zh: 在希伯来语中，撒但的意思是控告者。
- start: 1062.065
  end: 1067.446
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so Satan is basically the prosecuting attorney in God's heavenly court.
  zh: 所以撒但基本上是神天庭中的检察官。
- start: 1067.446
  end: 1072.608
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It's his job to find people doing bad stuff and then accuse them before God.
  zh: 他的工作是找出人们做坏事，然后在神面前控告他们。
- start: 1072.608
  end: 1077.549
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But what we're interested here in is the sons of God that are there.
  zh: 但我们感兴趣的是在那里神的众子。
- start: 1077.709
  end: 1081.811
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, there are no saints, no human saints in heaven at this point.
  zh: 在这个时候，天上没有圣徒，没有人类的圣徒。
- start: 1081.811
  end: 1084.091
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So who are these sons of God?
  zh: 那么这些神的众子是谁呢？
- start: 1084.091
  end: 1085.612
  speaker: jimmy
  en: They would be the...
  zh: 他们就是……
- start: 1086.732
  end: 1087.873
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The angels, right.
  zh: 天使，对吧。
- start: 1087.873
  end: 1089.133
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So what do you know?
  zh: 所以你知道吗？
- start: 1089.133
  end: 1090.654
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The catechism was right.
  zh: 教理是对的。
- start: 1090.954
  end: 1094.456
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Okay, what about Israel as the chosen people?
  zh: 那么，作为选民的以色列呢？
- start: 1094.456
  end: 1103.96
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, in Hosea, we find God saying, "When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son."
  zh: 在何西阿书中，我们看到神说：「以色列年幼的时候我爱他，就从埃及召出我的儿子来。」
- start: 1104.36
  end: 1109.883
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So Israel as a nation is also understood as God's Son.
  zh: 所以以色列这个民族也被理解为神的儿子。
- start: 1109.883
  end: 1116.907
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And here we have a picture of Charlton Heston having led some actors through a special effect.
  zh: 这里有一张查尔顿·赫斯顿带领一些演员通过特效的图片。
- start: 1117.248
  end: 1122.451
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And if you look carefully, you'll see the special effect is collapsing on some other actors.
  zh: 如果你仔细看，会发现特效正在倒塌在其他演员身上。
- start: 1122.991
  end: 1130.795
  speaker: jimmy
  en: I don't know what the Screen Actors Guild would have to say about Charlton Heston killing a lot of their members, but I assume they've worked that out by this point.
  zh: 我不知道演员协会对查尔顿·赫斯顿杀死他们许多成员会怎么说，但我想他们已经解决了这个问题。
- start: 1132.076
  end: 1134.558
  speaker: jimmy
  en: What about individual Israelites?
  zh: 那么个别以色列人呢？
- start: 1134.558
  end: 1144.043
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, in Deuteronomy, they are told, "You are the sons of the Lord your God," and so don't do pagan practices.
  zh: 在申命记中，他们被告知：「你们是耶和华你们神的儿女」，所以不要行异教的习俗。
- start: 1144.043
  end: 1149.166
  speaker: jimmy
  en: You know, don't cut yourself for the dead or make any baldness on your forehead for the dead.
  zh: 不要为死人用刀划身，也不要为死人剃光额头。
- start: 1149.166
  end: 1151.928
  speaker: jimmy
  en: I mean, come on, use it while you got it.
  zh: 我的意思是，趁着还有头发就好好用吧。
- start: 1154.289
  end: 1156.711
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But the Israelites were sons of God.
  zh: 但以色列人是神的儿女。
- start: 1156.711
  end: 1158.272
  speaker: jimmy
  en: How about their kings?
  zh: 他们的君王呢？
- start: 1158.332
  end: 1163.355
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Okay, well, in 2 Samuel, God is talking to David about his son Solomon.
  zh: 在撒母耳记下，神对大卫说到他的儿子所罗门。
- start: 1163.535
  end: 1169.639
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And God says, "I will be his father, and he, Solomon, shall be my son."
  zh: 神说：「我要作他的父，他要作我的子。」
- start: 1169.639
  end: 1177.244
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And here we have Solomon photobombing a painting of the temple, which, you know, he built it, so I guess.
  zh: 这里有所罗门在圣殿画作中的照片，你知道，他建造了圣殿，所以我想。
- start: 1178.125
  end: 1179.926
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In any event, the Catechism was right.
  zh: 无论如何，教理是对的。
- start: 1179.926
  end: 1190.591
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In the Old Testament, sons of God get applied to angels, to Israel as the chosen people, to individual Israelites, and to Israelite kings.
  zh: 在旧约中，神的儿子这个称号应用于天使、作为选民的以色列、个别以色列人和以色列的君王。
- start: 1190.892
  end: 1192.773
  speaker: jimmy
  en: What about the New Testament?
  zh: 那么新约呢？
- start: 1193.253
  end: 1206.463
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, the Catechism goes on to say, when the promised Messiah King is called Son of God, it does not necessarily imply that he was more than human, according to the literal meaning of these texts.
  zh: 教理接着说，当应许的弥赛亚君王被称为神的儿子时，根据这些经文的字面意思，并不一定意味着他超越人性。
- start: 1207.144
  end: 1214.549
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Those who called Jesus Son of God as the Messiah of Israel perhaps meant nothing more than this.
  zh: 那些称耶稣为神的儿子、以色列的弥赛亚的人，或许仅仅是这个意思。
- start: 1214.99
  end: 1216.111
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Like this guy.
  zh: 就像这个人。
- start: 1216.111
  end: 1217.151
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Remember him?
  zh: 记得他吗？
- start: 1217.452
  end: 1218.933
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, he's a Roman.
  zh: 他是个罗马人。
- start: 1219.193
  end: 1223.876
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He recognizes that Jesus is the king of Israel.
  zh: 他认出耶稣是以色列的王。
- start: 1223.876
  end: 1226.338
  speaker: jimmy
  en: You know, I mean, it says so right above him.
  zh: 你知道，牌子上就这么写着。
- start: 1227.319
  end: 1238.216
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so he could think perhaps, well, maybe he's a son of God like Solomon, as a king was son of God, or David, or Saul, or even Cyrus.
  zh: 所以他可能认为，也许耶稣像所罗门那样，作为王是神的儿子，或像大卫、扫罗，甚至居鲁士。
- start: 1238.577
  end: 1245.562
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so he didn't necessarily think that Jesus was more than human, although he might have also.
  zh: 所以他不一定认为耶稣超越人性，尽管他也可能这样想。
- start: 1246.023
  end: 1250.767
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, the Catechism says this isn't the case for Simon Peter.
  zh: 教理说，这对西门彼得来说并非如此。
- start: 1250.767
  end: 1253.809
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He recognizes Jesus is more than human.
  zh: 他认识到耶稣超越人性。
- start: 1253.969
  end: 1266.097
  speaker: jimmy
  en: When he confesses Jesus as the Christ, the Son of the living God, Jesus responds solemnly, "Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven."
  zh: 当他认耶稣为基督，是永生神的儿子时，耶稣郑重地回答：「这不是属血肉的指示你的，乃是我在天上的父指示的。」
- start: 1266.097
  end: 1276.484
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So the Father has revealed to Peter that more is going on here than just the kind of sonship that Solomon or David had.
  zh: 所以父向彼得启示，这里有比所罗门或大卫那种儿子身份更深的含义。
- start: 1277.811
  end: 1280.454
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And we find that confirmed elsewhere in the New Testament.
  zh: 我们在新约其他地方也得到确认。
- start: 1280.454
  end: 1290.804
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In John, in the first chapter of John, for example, we read, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
  zh: 例如，在约翰福音第一章，我们读到：「太初有道，道与神同在，道就是神。」
- start: 1290.905
  end: 1297.512
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And we're also going to learn a few verses later that Jesus is the Word John is talking about.
  zh: 我们还会在几节后了解到，约翰所说的道就是耶稣。
- start: 1297.812
  end: 1298.713
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So Jesus is superhuman.
  zh: 所以耶稣超越人性。
- start: 1298.713
  end: 1299.293
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Jesus is God.
  zh: 耶稣就是神。
- start: 1299.293
  end: 1302.134
  speaker: jimmy
  en: What does it mean to say he's the only begotten Son of God, though?
  zh: 那么，说他是神的独生子是什么意思呢？
- start: 1302.195
  end: 1305.497
  speaker: jimmy
  en: That's what some Bible translations will say, some older ones.
  zh: 有些圣经译本会这样说，一些较旧的译本。
- start: 1305.497
  end: 1308.138
  speaker: jimmy
  en: '"Only begotten Son" is kind of an interesting phrase.'
  zh: 「独生子」是个有趣的词组。
- start: 1308.138
  end: 1309.478
  speaker: jimmy
  en: You know, what is...
  zh: 你知道，什么是……
- start: 1322.813
  end: 1323.593
  speaker: jimmy
  en: what does it mean?
  zh: 它是什么意思？
- start: 1323.593
  end: 1326.734
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, it can often be helpful to look at the Greek.
  zh: 通常查看希腊文会有帮助。
- start: 1327.115
  end: 1328.475
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So here's the Greek.
  zh: 这是希腊文。
- start: 1328.855
  end: 1329.976
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Does that help?
  zh: 这有帮助吗？
- start: 1332.557
  end: 1333.257
  speaker: jimmy
  en: How about that?
  zh: 这个怎么样？
- start: 1333.257
  end: 1334.597
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Is that a little better?
  zh: 这样好点了吗？
- start: 1335.818
  end: 1340.56
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In Greek, the word for only begotten is monogenes.
  zh: 在希腊文中，「独生」这个词是monogenes。
- start: 1340.72
  end: 1344.021
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And you might say, well, what does monogenes mean?
  zh: 你可能会问，monogenes是什么意思？
- start: 1344.161
  end: 1350.884
  speaker: jimmy
  en: One way to try to figure it out would be to look at the parts of the word or its etymology, where it comes from.
  zh: 一种方法是查看这个词的组成部分或词源，它的来源。
- start: 1350.884
  end: 1354.447
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And monogenes comes from two terms in Greek.
  zh: monogenes由希腊语中的两个词组成。
- start: 1354.447
  end: 1360.351
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Monos means things like only, isolated, single, or unique.
  zh: Monos的意思是只有、孤立、单一或独特。
- start: 1360.432
  end: 1366.356
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Genea means things like race, generation, origin, birth, and some other stuff.
  zh: Genea的意思是种族、世代、起源、出生等。
- start: 1366.356
  end: 1376.884
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So you could pick only in birth and say, okay, maybe monos plus genea or monogenes, maybe that means only born or only begotten.
  zh: 所以你可以选择「唯一出生」，说好吧，也许monos加genea或monogenes，也许意思是「唯一出生」或「独生」。
- start: 1376.884
  end: 1379.045
  speaker: jimmy
  en: That would be a safe conclusion, right?
  zh: 这会是个安全的结论，对吧？
- start: 1380.58
  end: 1383.261
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Danger, Will Robinson, danger!
  zh: 危险，威尔·罗宾逊，危险！
- start: 1384.481
  end: 1393.564
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The robot is popping up to alert us to the fact we may be on the verge of committing what's known as the etymological fallacy.
  zh: 机器人出现提醒我们，我们可能正要犯所谓的词源谬误。
- start: 1393.964
  end: 1399.466
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The etymological fallacy involves confusing a word's origin with its meaning.
  zh: 词源谬误是将一个词的来源与其意义混淆。
- start: 1400.386
  end: 1403.247
  speaker: jimmy
  en: I'll give you a nice example of the fallacy.
  zh: 我给你一个词源谬误的好例子。
- start: 1403.667
  end: 1408.369
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The English word "nice" comes from the Latin word "nescius."
  zh: 英语词「nice」来自拉丁词「nescius」。
- start: 1409.361
  end: 1413.864
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In Latin, "nescius" means ignorant or foolish.
  zh: 在拉丁语中，「nescius」的意思是无知或愚蠢。
- start: 1414.926
  end: 1418.508
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Nice does not mean ignorant or foolish.
  zh: 「Nice」并不意味着无知或愚蠢。
- start: 1418.649
  end: 1424.933
  speaker: jimmy
  en: If you say, "That's a nice dress," it does not mean that is an ignorant or foolish dress.
  zh: 如果你说「那是一件漂亮的裙子」，并不是说那是一件无知或愚蠢的裙子。
- start: 1426.119
  end: 1427.14
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Usually.
  zh: 通常不是。
- start: 1430.223
  end: 1434.206
  speaker: jimmy
  en: You never know what you're going to find on a Paris fashion runway.
  zh: 你永远不知道在巴黎时装秀上会看到什么。
- start: 1435.107
  end: 1442.172
  speaker: jimmy
  en: By the way, if any ladies would like to get this dress, it's part of the Comme Les Garçons Fall-Winter 2017 collection.
  zh: 顺便说一下，如果有女士想要这件裙子，它是Comme Les Garçons 2017秋冬系列的一部分。
- start: 1442.633
  end: 1448.898
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And since every designer should take responsibility for his mistakes, the designer was Rei Kawakubo.
  zh: 既然每个设计师都应该为自己的错误负责，这位设计师是川久保玲。
- start: 1450.619
  end: 1456.666
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But the etymological fallacy involves confusing a word's origin with its meaning.
  zh: 但词源谬误是将一个词的来源与其意义混淆。
- start: 1456.666
  end: 1460.95
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So how do you find out its meaning if it's not its origin?
  zh: 那么，如果不是通过词源，你如何找到它的意义呢？
- start: 1460.95
  end: 1466.416
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, usage, not origin, determines meaning.
  zh: 是用法，而不是词源，决定了意义。
- start: 1466.576
  end: 1471.0
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The origin of the word "nice" may be ignorant or foolish.
  zh: 「Nice」这个词的词源可能是无知或愚蠢。
- start: 1471.461
  end: 1476.585
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But we use nice to mean pleasant or attractive.
  zh: 但我们用「nice」表示愉快或吸引人。
- start: 1476.746
  end: 1480.569
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So nice means pleasant or attractive.
  zh: 所以「nice」的意思是愉快或吸引人。
- start: 1481.84
  end: 1489.825
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well then, how did first-century Greek speakers use the word "monogenes"? You'll find the answer by looking in Greek dictionaries.
  zh: 那么，一世纪的希腊语使用者如何使用「monogenes」这个词呢？你可以在希腊语词典中找到答案。
- start: 1490.025
  end: 1500.152
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The most famous dictionary of New Testament Greek is known as BDAG. It's a nickname from the editors Bauer, Denker, Art, and Gingrich.
  zh: 最著名的新约希腊语词典是BDAG。这个昵称来自编辑鲍尔、丹克、阿特和金里奇。
- start: 1500.152
  end: 1509.458
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And according to BDAG, "monogenes" means things like the only one of its kind, one and only, only, or unique.
  zh: 根据BDAG，「monogenes」的意思是独一无二、唯一、独有或独特。
- start: 1509.498
  end: 1511.959
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And you'll find the same thing in other Greek dictionaries.
  zh: 你在其他希腊语词典中也会发现同样的解释。
- start: 1511.959
  end: 1520.742
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In Milligan and Moulton's vocabulary of New Testament Greek, it says that "monogenes" is literally one of a kind, only, or unique.
  zh: 在米利根和莫尔顿的新约希腊语词汇中，说「monogenes」字面意思是独一无二、唯一或独特。
- start: 1520.922
  end: 1526.204
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And they even add not only begotten, which would be a different Greek word.
  zh: 他们甚至补充说，不是「独生」，那会是另一个希腊词。
- start: 1526.204
  end: 1530.486
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Instead of "monogenes," only begotten would be "monogenetos."
  zh: 不是「monogenes」，「独生」会是「monogenetos」。
- start: 1531.454
  end: 1535.936
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And you'll see this awareness reflected in more recent Bible translations.
  zh: 你会在较新的圣经译本中看到这种认识的反映。
- start: 1535.936
  end: 1542.099
  speaker: jimmy
  en: For example, I'm not a huge fan of the New American Bible, but in the revised edition, they get this right.
  zh: 例如，我不是《新美国圣经》的忠实粉丝，但在修订版中，他们把这点处理得很好。
- start: 1542.099
  end: 1549.343
  speaker: jimmy
  en: They'll translate John as saying, "We saw his glory, the glory of the Father's only Son."
  zh: 他们将约翰的话译为：「我们见过他的荣光，正是父独子的荣光。」
- start: 1549.949
  end: 1555.772
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The English Standard Version similarly has "the only son from the father."
  zh: 《英文标准版》同样译为「父独子的荣光」。
- start: 1555.892
  end: 1566.578
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And the Lexham English Bible, which is a very recent, very literal translation, says that we saw his glory, glory as of the one and only from the father.
  zh: 而《列克瑟姆英文圣经》，一个非常新的、非常直译的版本，说我们见过他的荣光，正是父独一者的荣光。
- start: 1566.578
  end: 1572.66
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And that's the most literal because the Greek word for son, "huios," is not in this text.
  zh: 这是最直译的，因为希腊文中「儿子」这个词「huios」不在这段经文中。
- start: 1572.801
  end: 1579.104
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It literally just does say we saw the glory of the one and only or the unique one from the father.
  zh: 字面上只是说我们见过父独一者或独特者的荣光。
- start: 1579.444
  end: 1583.968
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So if Jesus is uniquely the Son of God, that may leave you with a question.
  zh: 所以如果耶稣是独特的神的儿子，这可能会让你有个问题。
- start: 1585.07
  end: 1587.151
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Aren't we sons of God too?
  zh: 我们不也是神的儿女吗？
- start: 1588.073
  end: 1591.036
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And the answer is yes, and John knows that.
  zh: 答案是肯定的，约翰也知道。
- start: 1591.036
  end: 1607.168
  speaker: jimmy
  en: If you look back in John 1, John says that to all who did receive Jesus, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
  zh: 如果你回看约翰福音1章，约翰说，凡接待耶稣的，就是信他名的人，他就赐他们权柄作神的儿女。这等人不是从血气生的，不是从情欲生的，也不是从人意生的，乃是从神生的。
- start: 1607.268
  end: 1616.793
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And then the very next thing he says is, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father."
  zh: 接着他说：「道成了肉身，住在我们中间，充充满满地有恩典有真理。我们也见过他的荣光，正是父独生子的荣光。」
- start: 1616.793
  end: 1627.318
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So John is aware that there's a sense in which Christ is the one and only Son, but there's another sense in which we are all Christians, children of God.
  zh: 所以约翰知道，在某种意义上，基督是独一的儿子，但在另一种意义上，我们所有基督徒都是神的儿女。
- start: 1627.478
  end: 1630.68
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So we can add to what the Catechism said.
  zh: 所以我们可以在教理所说的基础上补充。
- start: 1630.8
  end: 1643.891
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In addition to the various Old Testament figures that could be described as sons of God, in the New Testament, Jesus is recognized as the Son of God in a unique sense, but then Christians are as well.
  zh: 除了旧约中被描述为神儿子的各种人物，在新约中，耶稣被认作独特意义上的神的儿子，但基督徒也是。
- start: 1644.652
  end: 1648.075
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So how is Jesus unique as God's Son?
  zh: 那么耶稣作为神的儿子有何独特之处？
- start: 1648.255
  end: 1650.337
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, back to John.
  zh: 回到约翰福音。
- start: 1650.337
  end: 1652.258
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The Word was God.
  zh: 道就是神。
- start: 1652.679
  end: 1654.801
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Okay, are any of us here God?
  zh: 好吧，我们中有谁是神吗？
- start: 1657.096
  end: 1658.837
  speaker: jimmy
  en: I'm going to have another stab at that.
  zh: 我再问一次。
- start: 1660.219
  end: 1661.98
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Are any of us here God?
  zh: 我们中有谁是神吗？
- start: 1661.98
  end: 1664.161
  speaker: jimmy
  en: No. Okay, good.
  zh: 没有。好，很好。
- start: 1664.982
  end: 1666.703
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Glad we're clear on that.
  zh: 很高兴我们对此有共识。
- start: 1667.825
  end: 1670.827
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So, that's one way in which Jesus is unique.
  zh: 所以，这就是耶稣独特的一个方面。
- start: 1670.827
  end: 1673.449
  speaker: jimmy
  en: John also says he was in the beginning.
  zh: 约翰还说他太初就有。
- start: 1673.449
  end: 1675.511
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Were any of us here in the beginning?
  zh: 我们中有谁在太初吗？
- start: 1675.511
  end: 1677.633
  speaker: jimmy
  en: No. No, good.
  zh: 没有。没有，很好。
- start: 1677.633
  end: 1679.434
  speaker: jimmy
  en: I like the enthusiasm.
  zh: 我喜欢这种热情。
- start: 1679.754
  end: 1681.536
  speaker: jimmy
  en: All things were made through him.
  zh: 万物是借着他造的。
- start: 1681.536
  end: 1683.578
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Did any of y'all make all things?
  zh: 你们中有谁造了万物吗？
- start: 1683.578
  end: 1690.3
  speaker: jimmy
  en: No. No. Okay, so Jesus is unique in that he's eternal because he was there in the beginning.
  zh: 没有。没有。好，所以耶稣的独特之处在于他是永恒的，因为他在太初就有。
- start: 1690.3
  end: 1693.241
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He's co-creator because he made all things.
  zh: 他是共同创造者，因为他造了万物。
- start: 1693.241
  end: 1695.661
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And he is God because the Word was God.
  zh: 他是神，因为道就是神。
- start: 1695.661
  end: 1698.362
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So Jesus is unique in these respects.
  zh: 所以耶稣在这些方面是独特的。
- start: 1698.522
  end: 1703.263
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Now really, being eternal and being co-creator are part of what it means to be God.
  zh: 实际上，永恒和共同创造是神性的组成部分。
- start: 1703.263
  end: 1704.764
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So that's the key one.
  zh: 所以这是关键的。
- start: 1704.764
  end: 1706.364
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Jesus is God.
  zh: 耶稣就是神。
- start: 1706.704
  end: 1708.885
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But the New Testament says something else.
  zh: 但新约还说了别的。
- start: 1710.963
  end: 1720.27
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Paul tells us there is one God and there is one mediator between God and men, the man, Jesus Christ.
  zh: 保罗告诉我们，只有一位神，在神和人中间只有一位中保，乃是降世为人的基督耶稣。
- start: 1721.191
  end: 1727.916
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So just because Jesus is God, we shouldn't refrain from saying that he's also man.
  zh: 所以仅仅因为耶稣是神，我们不应不说他也是人。
- start: 1727.916
  end: 1729.036
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He is.
  zh: 他确实是。
- start: 1729.197
  end: 1730.637
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Paul says so.
  zh: 保罗这样说。
- start: 1731.578
  end: 1736.101
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So this is how Jesus is unique as the Son of God.
  zh: 所以这就是耶稣作为神的儿子的独特之处。
- start: 1736.142
  end: 1737.602
  speaker: jimmy
  en: We may be men...
  zh: 我们可能是人……
- start: 1739.378
  end: 1742.882
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Women, you know, they get to be men too.
  zh: 女人，你知道，她们也可以成为「人」。
- start: 1744.805
  end: 1746.667
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And be sons of God.
  zh: 并成为神的儿女。
- start: 1746.768
  end: 1748.79
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But Jesus is unique in that he's both.
  zh: 但耶稣的独特之处在于他是两者。
- start: 1748.79
  end: 1750.412
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He's both God and man.
  zh: 他既是神又是人。
- start: 1750.412
  end: 1752.194
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And that seems pretty simple.
  zh: 这看起来很简单。
- start: 1752.295
  end: 1755.939
  speaker: jimmy
  en: You know, you might wonder, how could you get that wrong?
  zh: 你可能会想，怎么会弄错呢？
- start: 1757.318
  end: 1760.919
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, it turns out there are a bunch of ways, and here are some of them.
  zh: 事实证明，有很多种错误方式，这里是其中一些。
- start: 1761.959
  end: 1767.021
  speaker: jimmy
  en: These are ways that people got it wrong in the early centuries.
  zh: 这些是早期世纪人们弄错的方式。
- start: 1767.021
  end: 1772.322
  speaker: jimmy
  en: They're heresies, and they also have been with us down through the ages.
  zh: 它们是异端，也一直伴随着我们。
- start: 1772.322
  end: 1776.823
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The first of them is known as ditheism or tritheism.
  zh: 第一个被称为二神论或三神论。
- start: 1776.823
  end: 1782.827
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Someone's a ditheist if he thinks there's two gods, which would be Jesus and the Father.
  zh: 如果有人认为有两个神，就是耶稣和父，他就是二神论者。
- start: 1782.827
  end: 1789.093
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Or he's a tritheist if he thinks there's three gods, which would be the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
  zh: 如果他认为有三个神，就是父、子和圣灵，他就是三神论者。
- start: 1789.234
  end: 1799.404
  speaker: jimmy
  en: This heresy misunderstands the nature of God, because there's only one, but a ditheist or a tritheist thinks there's more than one.
  zh: 这种异端误解了神的本质，因为只有一位神，但二神论者或三神论者认为不止一位。
- start: 1799.845
  end: 1819.376
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Adoptionism says he wasn't God; he was just a man, but he was adopted by God.
  zh: 收纳说认为他不是神；他只是一个人，但被神收纳。
- start: 1819.376
  end: 1824.197
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Just like Solomon and David and Saul and Cyrus were.
  zh: 就像所罗门、大卫、扫罗和居鲁士一样。
- start: 1824.377
  end: 1829.818
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And they'll even say, okay, the moment when he was adopted was at his baptism.
  zh: 他们甚至会说，他被收纳的时刻是在他受洗时。
- start: 1829.978
  end: 1836.059
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Because that's when the Holy Spirit descends on him and that's when God first says, "This is my beloved Son."
  zh: 因为那时圣灵降在他身上，神第一次说：「这是我的爱子。」
- start: 1836.059
  end: 1838.699
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So they'll say that's the moment of the adoption.
  zh: 所以他们会说那是收纳的时刻。
- start: 1839.38
  end: 1840.68
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And they were wrong.
  zh: 他们错了。
- start: 1841.82
  end: 1849.724
  speaker: jimmy
  en: At the opposite end of the spectrum from adoptionism, which says Jesus is just a man, you have docetism.
  zh: 在收纳说的对立面，收纳说认为耶稣只是一个人，而幻影说则相反。
- start: 1849.864
  end: 1855.687
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Docetism says Jesus is God and he only appeared to be a man.
  zh: 幻影说认为耶稣是神，他只是看起来像个人。
- start: 1855.687
  end: 1865.072
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So he had like a ghost body or a temporary body like angels can assume or something like that.
  zh: 所以他有一个像幽灵的身体或天使可以拥有的临时身体。
- start: 1865.072
  end: 1870.475
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But he wasn't really a man; he was just really God and he appeared to be a man.
  zh: 但他不是真正的人；他只是神，看起来像个人。
- start: 1871.272
  end: 1875.154
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In the second century, a view got started called modalism.
  zh: 在二世纪，出现了一种叫形态论的观点。
- start: 1875.294
  end: 1877.295
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And modalism reasoned like this.
  zh: 形态论是这样推理的。
- start: 1877.295
  end: 1879.817
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It said, okay, we know there's only one God.
  zh: 它说，好吧，我们知道只有一位神。
- start: 1879.817
  end: 1881.357
  speaker: jimmy
  en: We're clear on that.
  zh: 我们对此很清楚。
- start: 1881.958
  end: 1887.821
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Therefore, if there's only one God, there must be only one divine person.
  zh: 因此，如果只有一位神，就只有一个神格位格。
- start: 1888.755
  end: 1894.298
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So if there's only one divine person, how do we explain the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit?
  zh: 所以如果只有一个神格位格，我们如何解释父、子和圣灵？
- start: 1894.298
  end: 1902.742
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And they would say, well, being modalists, they would say this one divine person acts in different modes.
  zh: 他们会说，作为形态论者，他们会说这个神格位格以不同的形态行事。
- start: 1903.183
  end: 1904.584
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Kind of like water.
  zh: 有点像水。
- start: 1904.584
  end: 1914.786
  speaker: jimmy
  en: If you have a given volume of water, it could be solid at one point and then it could be a liquid at another point, and then it could be a gas at another point.
  zh: 如果你有一定量的水，它可以在某个时候是固体，然后在另一个时候是液体，再在另一个时候是气体。
- start: 1914.786
  end: 1916.428
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And they'll say that's how God is like.
  zh: 他们会说神就是这样的。
- start: 1916.428
  end: 1931.278
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The one divine person sometimes acts as the Father, sometimes acts as the Son, and sometimes acts as the Holy Spirit, but really it's just one divine person playing different roles.
  zh: 这一个神格位格有时作为父，有时作为子，有时作为圣灵，但实际上只是一个神格位格扮演不同的角色。
- start: 1931.779
  end: 1945.366
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So, unfortunately, that contradicts the actual understanding of the Trinity, which is that the Father is a different person than the Son, who is a different person than the Spirit, who is a different person than the Father.
  zh: 不幸的是，这与三位一体的实际理解相矛盾，三位一体的理解是父与子是不同的位格，子与圣灵是不同的位格，圣灵与父是不同的位格。
- start: 1945.366
  end: 1953.009
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So God is three persons, not three modes, according to Trinitarianism.
  zh: 所以根据三位一体论，神是三个位格，而不是三种形态。
- start: 1953.31
  end: 1955.511
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But some folks have a problem with that.
  zh: 但有些人对此有问题。
- start: 1955.511
  end: 1959.152
  speaker: jimmy
  en: How can there be one God who is three persons?
  zh: 怎么会有一位神却是三个位格呢？
- start: 1959.333
  end: 1964.135
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, something that can help us understand it is thinking about God as the supreme being.
  zh: 帮助我们理解的一种方法是将神视为至高的存在。
- start: 1964.135
  end: 1973.334
  speaker: jimmy
  en: A being is something that be's. Something that exists.
  zh: 存在就是存在的东西。就是存在的东西。
- start: 1973.635
  end: 1974.535
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Okay?
  zh: 明白吗？
- start: 1974.915
  end: 1978.357
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And God, does God exist?
  zh: 那么神，神存在吗？
- start: 1979.158
  end: 1979.398
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Yeah.
  zh: 是的。
- start: 1979.398
  end: 1987.443
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Okay, so God is a being, but God is different from other beings because he's the ground of all being.
  zh: 好，所以神是一个存在，但神与其他存在不同，因为他是所有存在的根基。
- start: 1987.443
  end: 1991.386
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He's what makes it possible for everything else to exist.
  zh: 他使其他一切存在成为可能。
- start: 1991.386
  end: 1992.727
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He's the creator.
  zh: 他是创造主。
- start: 1992.848
  end: 2000.596
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But you will find God described as supreme being in various church documents and in a lot of philosophical literature.
  zh: 但你会在各种教会文件和许多哲学文献中发现神被描述为至高的存在。
- start: 2000.596
  end: 2003.619
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So let's talk about the category of being.
  zh: 所以让我们谈谈存在的类别。
- start: 2003.94
  end: 2007.944
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Anything that bees is a being, and lots of stuff bees.
  zh: 任何存在的东西都是存在，很多东西都存在。
- start: 2008.205
  end: 2012.529
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So snowflakes exist, right?
  zh: 所以雪花存在，对吧？
- start: 2012.99
  end: 2013.791
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So they're beings.
  zh: 所以它们是存在。
- start: 2013.791
  end: 2015.933
  speaker: jimmy
  en: We've got a nice picture of a snowflake there.
  zh: 我们这里有一张漂亮的雪花图片。
- start: 2015.933
  end: 2017.655
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Rocks exist.
  zh: 岩石存在。
- start: 2017.655
  end: 2018.576
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So they're beings.
  zh: 所以它们是存在。
- start: 2018.576
  end: 2020.898
  speaker: jimmy
  en: We've got a nice picture of a rock there.
  zh: 我们这里有一张漂亮的岩石图片。
- start: 2021.299
  end: 2023.461
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Human beings.
  zh: 人类。
- start: 2023.581
  end: 2026.103
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Kind of a giveaway in the name, isn't it?
  zh: 名字里就有提示，不是吗？
- start: 2026.556
  end: 2027.897
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Their beings.
  zh: 他们是存在。
- start: 2028.237
  end: 2032.24
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so we've got a photo of a snowflake, a rock, and a human.
  zh: 所以我们有一张雪花、岩石和人的照片。
- start: 2032.521
  end: 2035.663
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And then we have some stained glass of the angel Gabriel.
  zh: 然后我们有一些天使加百列的彩色玻璃。
- start: 2036.244
  end: 2037.925
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Angels, do they exist?
  zh: 天使，他们存在吗？
- start: 2038.245
  end: 2039.546
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Yeah, so they're beings.
  zh: 是的，所以他们是存在。
- start: 2039.546
  end: 2046.311
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Sorry I couldn't get you an actual photograph of the angel Gabriel, but Google Images didn't have one.
  zh: 抱歉我不能给你一张天使加百列的真实照片，但谷歌图片上没有。
- start: 2046.992
  end: 2050.454
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And then lastly, we've got God as the supreme being.
  zh: 最后，我们有神作为至高的存在。
- start: 2050.515
  end: 2054.257
  speaker: jimmy
  en: 'Now let''s talk about that other category: persons.'
  zh: 现在让我们谈谈另一个类别：位格。
- start: 2055.613
  end: 2061.296
  speaker: jimmy
  en: If you have a snowflake in your hand, how many persons do you have in your hand?
  zh: 如果你手里有一片雪花，你手里有多少位格？
- start: 2062.097
  end: 2067.32
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Zero, or none, or as we'll put it here, you've got less than one person there.
  zh: 零，或者没有，或者我们这里说，你有少于一个位格。
- start: 2067.8
  end: 2071.302
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Okay, suppose you climb up on this stone.
  zh: 好，假设你爬上这块石头。
- start: 2071.402
  end: 2074.064
  speaker: jimmy
  en: How many persons have you climbed up on?
  zh: 你爬上了多少位格？
- start: 2074.064
  end: 2074.644
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Zero.
  zh: 零。
- start: 2075.384
  end: 2078.045
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Zero or less than one.
  zh: 零或少于一个。
- start: 2078.266
  end: 2080.527
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Suppose you meet this guy at the mall.
  zh: 假设你在商场遇到这个人。
- start: 2080.527
  end: 2082.607
  speaker: jimmy
  en: How many persons have you met?
  zh: 你遇到了多少位格？
- start: 2083.768
  end: 2086.589
  speaker: jimmy
  en: One or exactly one in this case.
  zh: 一个，或者说在这种情况下，正好一个。
- start: 2087.71
  end: 2098.897
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And then if the angel Gabriel appears to you and tells you you're going to give birth to the Messiah, how many persons have come and told you you're going to give birth to the Messiah?
  zh: 如果天使加百列向你显现，告诉你要生弥赛亚，有多少位格来告诉你这件事？
- start: 2100.099
  end: 2101.18
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Exactly one.
  zh: 正好一个。
- start: 2101.18
  end: 2101.96
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Exactly right.
  zh: 完全正确。
- start: 2101.96
  end: 2102.741
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Correct.
  zh: 正确。
- start: 2102.741
  end: 2113.211
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So we see this pattern emerging here where it looks like being and person are two different categories that don't match up to each other in a one-to-one fashion.
  zh: 所以我们看到一个模式出现，存在和位格是两个不同的类别，它们之间不是一对一的关系。
- start: 2113.351
  end: 2116.494
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Some beings are less than one person.
  zh: 有些存在少于一个位格。
- start: 2116.794
  end: 2126.696
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Some beings are exactly one person, and if that's true, then some beings can be more than one person.
  zh: 有些存在正好是一个位格，如果这样，那么有些存在可以是多个位格。
- start: 2126.696
  end: 2128.597
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And that's the case with God.
  zh: 这就是神的情况。
- start: 2128.597
  end: 2136.739
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Being and person are just different categories that don't match up one to one, and God is one being who is three persons.
  zh: 存在和位格是不同的类别，不是一对一的，神是一个存在却有三个位格。
- start: 2138.701
  end: 2140.282
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Modalism is therefore wrong.
  zh: 因此形态论是错误的。
- start: 2140.282
  end: 2141.562
  speaker: jimmy
  en: That's the mistake it makes.
  zh: 这就是它的错误所在。
- start: 2141.562
  end: 2145.284
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It confuses the category of being with the category of person.
  zh: 它将存在的类别与位格的类别混淆了。
- start: 2145.324
  end: 2149.186
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But there are more ways to get Jesus wrong.
  zh: 但还有更多误解耶稣的方式。
- start: 2149.186
  end: 2150.447
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Aren't you excited?
  zh: 你不感到兴奋吗？
- start: 2150.447
  end: 2153.828
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The next one is called Arianism.
  zh: 下一个叫亚略主义。
- start: 2153.948
  end: 2158.47
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Arius was a priest from Egypt in the early 300s.
  zh: 亚略是公元300年代初期来自埃及的一个祭司。
- start: 2158.691
  end: 2165.154
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And sometimes you'll hear people say that Arians believe that Jesus is only a man.
  zh: 有时你会听人说亚略派认为耶稣只是一个人。
- start: 2166.445
  end: 2167.146
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Wrong.
  zh: 错了。
- start: 2167.146
  end: 2168.867
  speaker: jimmy
  en: That's not what Arius believed.
  zh: 那不是亚略所信的。
- start: 2168.867
  end: 2174.371
  speaker: jimmy
  en: What view is it that holds Jesus is only a man that we talked about a minute ago?
  zh: 我们刚才谈到的哪种观点认为耶稣只是一个人？
- start: 2175.332
  end: 2176.993
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Adoptionism, right.
  zh: 收纳说，对吧。
- start: 2176.993
  end: 2178.894
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So we already know what that's called.
  zh: 所以我们已经知道那叫什么。
- start: 2178.894
  end: 2188.501
  speaker: jimmy
  en: What Arius said is that Jesus is the first created being and then God used Jesus to create everything else.
  zh: 亚略说耶稣是首先被造的，然后神用耶稣创造了其他一切。
- start: 2188.562
  end: 2191.383
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So Jesus is kind of a super angel.
  zh: 所以耶稣有点像超级天使。
- start: 2193.982
  end: 2204.012
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Years ago, they would talk about supermodels, and they were frequently German for some reason, and a friend of mine would always refer to them as Zupermodels.
  zh: 多年前，人们谈论超级名模，她们常常是德国人，我有个朋友总是称她们为「Zupermodels」。
- start: 2204.894
  end: 2208.898
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so Jesus is, I guess, kind of a Zuperangel on this view.
  zh: 所以在这种观点中，耶稣有点像「Zuperangel」。
- start: 2209.179
  end: 2211.862
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But we have Arians with us today.
  zh: 但今天我们还有亚略派的人。
- start: 2211.862
  end: 2213.983
  speaker: jimmy
  en: I mean, hopefully not in this room.
  zh: 我的意思是，希望不在这个房间里。
- start: 2214.784
  end: 2218.427
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But Jehovah's Witnesses are Arians.
  zh: 但耶和华见证人就是亚略派。
- start: 2218.427
  end: 2221.869
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And in fact, this is a piece of Jehovah's Witness art.
  zh: 事实上，这是耶和华见证人的一幅艺术作品。
- start: 2222.069
  end: 2226.352
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And you can see it's got, up in the right-hand corner, it's got God on the throne there.
  zh: 你可以看到，在右上角，有神坐在宝座上。
- start: 2226.352
  end: 2228.414
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And then it's got Jesus down in the foreground.
  zh: 然后在前景中有耶稣。
- start: 2228.414
  end: 2231.676
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And you can see he's an angel because the artist has put wings on him.
  zh: 你可以看到他是天使，因为画家给他画了翅膀。
- start: 2232.142
  end: 2235.404
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so that's essentially Arianism.
  zh: 所以这基本上就是亚略主义。
- start: 2235.404
  end: 2239.626
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Jesus is the first created being, and he's basically a kind of super angel.
  zh: 耶稣是首先被造的，他基本上是一种超级天使。
- start: 2239.967
  end: 2244.649
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But that heresy from the 300s got condemned.
  zh: 但那个三世纪的异端被定罪了。
- start: 2244.95
  end: 2248.932
  speaker: jimmy
  en: By the 400s, there was this other guy named Nestorius.
  zh: 到了四世纪，有另一个人叫聂斯脱里。
- start: 2249.213
  end: 2258.958
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And Nestorius did not want to call Mary Theotokos, or the God-bearer, or the mother of God.
  zh: 聂斯脱里不愿称马利亚为「神的母亲」或「神的生母」。
- start: 2258.958
  end: 2265.001
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He didn't want to say that God was in Mary's womb.
  zh: 他不愿意说神在马利亚的腹中。
- start: 2265.001
  end: 2274.285
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so they held a council at the Council of Ephesus in 431, and they condemned Nestorianism.
  zh: 于是他们在431年的以弗所会议上召开会议，谴责了聂斯脱里主义。
- start: 2274.285
  end: 2275.725
  speaker: jimmy
  en: They condemned his view.
  zh: 他们谴责了他的观点。
- start: 2275.725
  end: 2279.647
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Because it's really not so much about Mary.
  zh: 因为这其实不完全是关于马利亚的。
- start: 2279.707
  end: 2281.128
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It's about Jesus.
  zh: 而是关于耶稣。
- start: 2281.128
  end: 2284.089
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Because if he's saying God wasn't in her womb...
  zh: 因为如果他说神不在她的腹中……
- start: 2284.75
  end: 2285.83
  speaker: jimmy
  en: what is he saying?
  zh: 他在说什么呢？
- start: 2285.83
  end: 2307.5
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Because clearly something was in Mary's womb, and Nestorius would be happy to say Christ was in her womb or a man was in her womb, but if God wasn't, then you've got a problem because it sounds like you're saying Jesus is two different persons, one of whom is divine and one of whom is human.
  zh: 因为显然有东西在马利亚的腹中，聂斯脱里会乐意说基督在她腹中，或一个人在她腹中，但如果神不在，那就有问题了，因为这听起来像是在说耶稣是两个不同的位格，其中一个是神性，一个是人性。
- start: 2307.5
  end: 2313.362
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So Nestorianism runs the risk of splitting Jesus into two persons.
  zh: 所以聂斯脱里主义有将耶稣分裂为两个位格的风险。
- start: 2313.862
  end: 2328.576
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Now, given that it was condemned at the Council of Ephesus, that means we're safe in saying that Nestorius was just a heretic and all of the so-called Nestorian churches that he inspired, they're all a bunch of heretics, right?
  zh: 既然它在以弗所会议上被谴责，那我们可以安全地说聂斯脱里只是个异端，他所影响的所有所谓聂斯脱里教会都是一群异端，对吗？
- start: 2330.287
  end: 2333.111
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Danger, Will Robinson, danger!
  zh: 危险，威尔·罗宾逊，危险！
- start: 2333.612
  end: 2337.979
  speaker: jimmy
  en: This time, the robot is alerting us to two important things.
  zh: 这次，机器人提醒我们两件重要的事。
- start: 2337.979
  end: 2345.309
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The first one is that after the Council of Ephesus, Nestorius accepted the church's judgment.
  zh: 第一，聂斯脱里在以弗所会议后接受了教会的判断。
- start: 2345.819
  end: 2349.862
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He said, actually, no, I don't think Jesus is two persons.
  zh: 他说，其实不，我不认为耶稣是两个位格。
- start: 2349.862
  end: 2351.723
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Let me clarify.
  zh: 让我澄清一下。
- start: 2351.844
  end: 2353.104
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And he did.
  zh: 他确实澄清了。
- start: 2353.305
  end: 2354.786
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He clarified his views.
  zh: 他澄清了他的观点。
- start: 2354.786
  end: 2366.555
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He didn't like calling Mary mother of God, but he clarified that he didn't think Jesus was two persons, and he accepted the church's judgment, and he died in communion with the church.
  zh: 他不喜欢称马利亚为神的母亲，但他澄清说他不认为耶稣是两个位格，他接受了教会的判断，并在与教会的共融中去世。
- start: 2366.896
  end: 2370.078
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Arius died a faithful Catholic.
  zh: 亚略以忠实的公教徒身份去世。
- start: 2371.079
  end: 2374.301
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Should we be calling faithful Catholics heretics?
  zh: 我们应该称忠实的公教徒为异端吗？
- start: 2376.05
  end: 2380.893
  speaker: jimmy
  en: No. Wish some people would think about that in connection with the Pope.
  zh: 不。希望有些人能在与教宗有关的问题上考虑这一点。
- start: 2382.655
  end: 2397.025
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But, in addition to Nestorius clarifying that he meant what he said in an orthodox way, if he could clarify his view in an orthodox way, so can the Nestorian churches.
  zh: 但除了聂斯脱里以正统方式澄清他的意思外，如果他能以正统方式澄清他的观点，聂斯脱里教会也能。
- start: 2397.466
  end: 2398.827
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And they did.
  zh: 他们确实做到了。
- start: 2399.267
  end: 2414.716
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In the reign of Saint John Paul II, they signed a joint declaration on Christology with us, where both they and us said, even though we express ourselves using different language, we agree on the substance.
  zh: 在圣若望保禄二世统治时期，他们与我们签署了一份关于基督论的联合声明，其中他们和我们都说，尽管我们用不同的语言表达，但我们在实质上是一致的。
- start: 2414.896
  end: 2420.798
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So we don't want to be triumphalistic or accusing the so-called Nestorian churches of being heretics.
  zh: 所以我们不想自夸或指责所谓的聂斯脱里教会是异端。
- start: 2420.798
  end: 2426.44
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It's an irony that the guy the heresy is named after wasn't actually a heretic.
  zh: 讽刺的是，以他命名的异端实际上并不是异端。
- start: 2426.44
  end: 2428.56
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Nestorianism is a heresy.
  zh: 聂斯脱里主义是异端。
- start: 2429.261
  end: 2436.643
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It's just that Nestorius and modern Nestorian churches don't understand it in a heretical sense.
  zh: 只是聂斯脱里和现代聂斯脱里教会并不以异端的方式理解它。
- start: 2437.441
  end: 2443.327
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Now kind of at the opposite end of the spectrum from Nestorianism is a view called monophysitism.
  zh: 现在，在聂斯脱里主义的对立面，有一种观点叫做基督一性论。
- start: 2443.327
  end: 2446.21
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Monos means single or alone.
  zh: Monos的意思是单一或独自。
- start: 2446.21
  end: 2447.452
  speaker: jimmy
  en: We talked about that.
  zh: 我们谈过这个。
- start: 2447.452
  end: 2449.654
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Phusis means nature.
  zh: Phusis的意思是本性。
- start: 2449.854
  end: 2456.081
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so monophysitism is the view that Jesus has only one nature.
  zh: 所以基督一性论认为耶稣只有一个本性。
- start: 2456.401
  end: 2469.068
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He is one person, and according to monophysitism, he's got basically one nature that is a fusion of the divine and the human.
  zh: 他是一个位格，根据基督一性论，他基本上有一个融合了神性和人性本性。
- start: 2469.469
  end: 2475.312
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So in some versions, he would kind of like be 50% God and 50% man.
  zh: 所以在某些版本中，他有点像50%的神性和50%的人性。
- start: 2475.673
  end: 2479.695
  speaker: jimmy
  en: In other versions, the human nature is basically eliminated.
  zh: 在其他版本中，人性基本上被消除了。
- start: 2479.695
  end: 2482.496
  speaker: jimmy
  en: It gets absorbed by his divine nature.
  zh: 它被他的神性吸收了。
- start: 2483.678
  end: 2495.07
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And this view is also going to be heretical because he's not truly man or truly God if he doesn't have a full divine nature and a full human nature.
  zh: 这种观点也是异端，因为如果他没有完整的神性和完整的人性，他就不是真正的人或真正的神。
- start: 2495.07
  end: 2501.116
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So we would be right to accuse the monophysite churches of being heretics, right?
  zh: 所以我们指责基督一性论教会是异端是正确的，对吗？
- start: 2501.116
  end: 2501.716
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Right?
  zh: 对吗？
- start: 2504.304
  end: 2507.204
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Danger, Will Robinson, danger!
  zh: 危险，威尔·罗宾逊，危险！
- start: 2507.885
  end: 2523.427
  speaker: jimmy
  en: This time the robot is alerting us to the fact that, again, in the reign of St. John Paul II, the monophysite churches clarified what they meant by their language, and they actually agree with us these days.
  zh: 这次机器人提醒我们，再次在圣若望保禄二世统治时期，基督一性论教会澄清了他们语言的含义，如今他们实际上与我们一致。
- start: 2523.488
  end: 2527.928
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So, we have a joint declaration on Christology with them, too.
  zh: 所以，我们也与他们有关于基督论的联合声明。
- start: 2527.928
  end: 2530.989
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So, be careful who you're calling a heretic.
  zh: 所以，要小心你称谁为异端。
- start: 2531.429
  end: 2537.356
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Now, next, the last way of getting it wrong we're going to talk about is called Apollinarianism.
  zh: 现在，接下来我们要谈的最后一种错误叫做亚波里拿留主义。
- start: 2537.377
  end: 2547.39
  speaker: jimmy
  en: How many people have heard people suggest that humans have three parts, a body, a soul, and a spirit?
  zh: 有多少人听过有人说人有三部分：身体、魂和灵？
- start: 2547.39
  end: 2550.293
  speaker: jimmy
  en: How many people have heard that three-part view?
  zh: 有多少人听过这种三部分的观点？
- start: 2550.413
  end: 2550.854
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Right.
  zh: 对。
- start: 2550.854
  end: 2553.335
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Well, the ancient Greeks had that.
  zh: 古希腊人就有这种观点。
- start: 2553.496
  end: 2558.441
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And there was this guy named Apollinarius who had that view.
  zh: 有个叫亚波里拿留的人持这种观点。
- start: 2558.441
  end: 2562.905
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And he was prepared to say, okay, Jesus, he's got a human body.
  zh: 他准备说，好吧，耶稣有一个人的身体。
- start: 2563.125
  end: 2568.73
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He's got a human soul, meaning the sensitive part that lets him feel things.
  zh: 他有一个人的魂，意思是让他感知事物的敏感部分。
- start: 2568.891
  end: 2574.035
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But he didn't want to say that Jesus had a human intellect.
  zh: 但他不愿意说耶稣有人的理智。
- start: 2574.215
  end: 2581.939
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So he said that the divine logos stood in for Jesus' rational mind.
  zh: 所以他说神性的道代替了耶稣的理性思维。
- start: 2581.939
  end: 2587.022
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So he didn't have a human spirit or a human intellectual spirit.
  zh: 所以他没有人的灵或人的理性灵。
- start: 2587.022
  end: 2589.424
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He had the divine logos instead.
  zh: 他有的是神性的道。
- start: 2589.424
  end: 2593.886
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so Apollinarius wouldn't say Jesus is a man.
  zh: 所以亚波里拿留不会说耶稣是一个人。
- start: 2594.006
  end: 2598.329
  speaker: jimmy
  en: He would say Jesus is a flesh-bearing God.
  zh: 他会说耶稣是一个带有肉体的神。
- start: 2599.069
  end: 2602.832
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Because he's God, but he's also got flesh.
  zh: 因为他是神，但他也有肉体。
- start: 2603.072
  end: 2610.397
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Or, as one of my old instructors put it back in the day, Apollinarius' view is God in a bod.
  zh: 或者，正如我以前的一位老师所说，亚波里拿留的观点是「神在肉体中」。
- start: 2613.66
  end: 2617.723
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But again, he's not fully man on this view, so that's a problem.
  zh: 但再次地，在这种观点中，他不是完全的人，所以这是个问题。
- start: 2618.103
  end: 2622.566
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The last one we're going to look at is a related view called monothelitism.
  zh: 我们要看的最后一个是一个相关的观点，叫做基督一志论。
- start: 2622.706
  end: 2624.648
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Monos means what?
  zh: Monos是什么意思？
- start: 2624.708
  end: 2625.468
  speaker: jimmy
  en: We've said it twice.
  zh: 我们说过两次。
- start: 2625.468
  end: 2626.089
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Monos.
  zh: Monos。
- start: 2626.896
  end: 2639.36
  speaker: jimmy
  en: One, single alone, good enough for ICEL. Thelema, that's the International Commission on English and Liturgy; you can thank them whenever you have a clunky translation at Mass.
  zh: 单一，独自，足够ICEL用了。Thelema，那是国际英文礼仪委员会；每当你在弥撒中遇到生硬的翻译时，可以感谢他们。
- start: 2640.041
  end: 2642.722
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But thelema in Greek means will.
  zh: 但希腊文中的thelema意思是意志。
- start: 2642.842
  end: 2658.133
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And so what the monothelites reasoned was, okay, Jesus can have a human body, and he can have a human spirit, but if he's got a human will, how does that relate to his divine will?
  zh: 所以基督一志论者推理说，好吧，耶稣可以有人的身体，他可以有人的灵，但如果他有人的意志，那如何与他的神性意志相关？
- start: 2658.594
  end: 2663.456
  speaker: jimmy
  en: I mean, if he's got two different wills, they could be in conflict with each other.
  zh: 我的意思是，如果他有两个不同的意志，它们可能会互相冲突。
- start: 2663.676
  end: 2670.56
  speaker: jimmy
  en: And we don't want to say Jesus is in conflict with himself, or you could say if he's got two wills, he might be two different people.
  zh: 我们不想说耶稣与自己冲突，或者你可以说如果他有两个意志，他可能是两个不同的人。
- start: 2670.56
  end: 2679.405
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So to prevent saying things like that, the monothelites concluded he must have only one will, and it's divine.
  zh: 所以为了防止这样说，基督一志论者得出结论，他一定只有一个意志，那就是神性的。
- start: 2680.034
  end: 2686.859
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So they'd say he's got a complete divine nature and almost all of a human nature, but not the will.
  zh: 所以他们会说他有完整的神性和几乎完整的人性，但没有意志。
- start: 2686.859
  end: 2688.64
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The will is coming from God.
  zh: 意志来自神。
- start: 2688.64
  end: 2690.762
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The will is the divine will.
  zh: 意志是神性的意志。
- start: 2691.322
  end: 2696.085
  speaker: jimmy
  en: But again, that robs Jesus of being fully a man.
  zh: 但再次地，这剥夺了耶稣作为完全的人的身份。
- start: 2696.186
  end: 2698.087
  speaker: jimmy
  en: So, it’s wrong.
  zh: 所以，这是错误的。
- start: 2698.468
  end: 2702.731
  speaker: jimmy
  en: Now, the way to get it right, those are some ways to get Jesus wrong.
  zh: 现在，要正确理解耶稣，那些是误解耶稣的一些方式。
- start: 2702.731
  end: 2708.434
  speaker: jimmy
  en: The way to get it right is to recognize, as the Catechism says, that he's true God and true man.
  zh: 正确理解的方式是认识到，正如教理所说，他是真神又是真人。
- start: 2709.316
  end: 2718.483
  speaker: jimmy
  en: That means he's fully God; he has a complete divine nature, and he's fully man; he has a complete human nature.
  zh: 这意味着他是完全的神；他有完整的神性，他也是完全的人；他有完整的人性。
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  en: If you want to put it a little more elaborately, you could say Jesus is one person.
  zh: 如果你想更详细地说，你可以说耶稣是一个位格。
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  en: But he has two natures.
  zh: 但他有两个本性。
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  en: One is a divine nature, one is a human nature.
  zh: 一个是神性，一个是人性。
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  speaker: jimmy
  en: And in his human nature, it's complete, so he has a complete human spirit and a complete human body.
  zh: 在他的人性中，是完整的，所以他有完整的人类灵魂和完整的人体。
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  en: That's a fairly lengthy way to say the truth about Jesus, but if you want to say it more simply...
  zh: 这是一个相当冗长的方式来说耶稣的真理，但如果你想更简单地说……
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  en: you could say, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
  zh: 你可以说：「你是基督，是永生神的儿子。」
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  en: That's the confession you want to make.
  zh: 那是你要作的告白。
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  speaker: jimmy
  en: So if you go up to heaven and you meet Jesus, and I told you there was going to be a quiz, and he says, "Who do you say that I am?"
  zh: 所以如果你到天上见到耶稣，我告诉过你会有个测验，他说：「你说我是谁？」
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  en: You say, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
  zh: 你说：「你是基督，是永生神的儿子。」
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  speaker: jimmy
  en: Say the secret word, win $100. You may not get the keys to the kingdom, but at least St. Peter will use the keys to let you into the kingdom.
  zh: 说出秘密词，赢得100美元。你可能得不到天国的钥匙，但至少圣彼得会用钥匙让你进入天国。
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  speaker: jimmy
  en: Thank you so much.
  zh: 非常感谢。
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  speaker: jimmy
  en: And before we go, just one more reminder that if you like what you've watched, you can help me out by liking, commenting, and especially by subscribing.
  zh: 在结束之前，再次提醒，如果你喜欢所看的内容，可以通过点赞、评论，尤其是订阅来支持我。
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  speaker: jimmy
  en: I'm trying to grow my channel, and I'd really appreciate your help.
  zh: 我正在努力发展我的频道，非常感谢你的帮助。
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  speaker: jimmy
  en: Thank you, and God bless you.
  zh: 谢谢，愿神祝福你。
